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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 09:30 AM
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Anyone gone down this route yet or play with it ,,, I wanting to learn about it and hopefully get a kit sorted to fit the Rs turbo in the future.

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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 06:06 PM
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Bosch Motorsport ABS is several grand ? Or are you referring to something else ?
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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 10:05 PM
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Bosch Motorsport ABS is several grand ? Or are you referring to something else ?
Well i didn't mention Bosch, but if theirs any cheaper set up I'd like to know and look into them ..I know nothing about it yet ..but of its several grand I'll happily give it a miss unless anything cheaper that does the same job .
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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 10:18 PM
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I've never heard of anyone else offering a retrofit system

https://www.bosch-motorsport.com/highlights/abs-m5-kit/

Ł5-6k+vat...not too bad I guess ? lol

https://www.racedatasystems.com/prod...-clubsport-kit

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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 07:50 AM
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Fair old price that is , hopefully someone will make a cheaper kit in the near future.
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 11:50 AM
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What about racelogic ? They do traction control seperate Ecu uses abs sensors , had it on my cossy years ago .also launch control and adjustable traction control, it was great in the wet and not that expensive
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What about racelogic ? They do traction control seperate Ecu uses abs sensors , had it on my cossy years ago .also launch control and adjustable traction control, it was great in the wet and not that expensive
No they dont, and haven't for years.

And traction control is nothing whatsoever to do with ABS.
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Yes it was Stevie , they wired it through the cossy abs ecu , I still have it here , it took the signal from the abs wheel sensors and detected the wheel spin and cut power then reintroduced the power , unless I paid 2 grand for f**k all , didn’t know they stop doing it
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Just look on there site they have discontinued it [img]blob:https://passionford.com/4acfe452-38c2-4ee0-9ef0-b170938c9da5[/img]

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Originally Posted by pectelboy
Yes it was Stevie , they wired it through the cossy abs ecu , I still have it here , it took the signal from the abs wheel sensors and detected the wheel spin and cut power then reintroduced the power , unless I paid 2 grand for f**k all , didn’t know they stop doing it

It was discontinued a long time ago...and it has nothing at all to do with ABS.

The fact it could use the same wheel speed sensors as ABS...has nothing at all to the functionality of the ABS system.
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Here you go mate
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 07:34 PM
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You do actually understand what ABS is ? as it seems not
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 08:04 PM
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I think pectelboy is just trying to say that the after market traction control worked off of the existing abs sensors. He doesn't mean abs and t/c are the same thing.
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 08:07 PM
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Yes I know it did, but that has no relevance to the thread, nor does the Racelogic traction control.
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Old Apr 5, 2020 | 09:58 AM
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Why not just use a much cheaper fully adjustable pedal box with correctly specced cylinders and a basis valve , rally / racecar have used them for years and ian sure they would out break a road going system.
or retro fit a modern abs system off a car .
Sounds like a big headache for not much gain over a good setup


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ABS and simply strong brakes are two very different things though.

A properly engineered ABS system is a massive safety feature, that almost no driver will match in emergency conditions on the road with normal brakes ( except ice etc...that just fucks them up )

ABS isnt about just stopping in a straight line on a clear dry road as and when you're ready. It's for those oh shit moments where you need to stop fast and steer around any objects in your path. And modern systems do that superbly.

Retrofitting from another vehicle may be an option, but you could never expect the system to work the same as it was in the original application, which was designed, tested and programmed specifically for that vehicle. And it'd be a ton of work to retrofit I'd imagine.
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Old Apr 5, 2020 | 12:26 PM
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The question is, did you have a hairy moment matt that gave you a big scare​​​​​​

I know through my mates 300 bhp S2 just how fookin quick these little s2s can be lol
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Old Apr 5, 2020 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by james kiely
The question is, did you have a hairy moment matt that gave you a big scare​​​​​​

I know through my mates 300 bhp S2 just how fookin quick these little s2s can be lol

No mate the cars stable even off the end of the clock..I'm running traction control and boost by gear so the car goes straight and doesn't want to throw you into a ditch

I've already got an awesome brake set up , I'm on a bias box with the right MCs for my APs etc.. the only reason I thought about this is because 1 its never been done on a Rs turbo and 2 I think it would make me a little quicker and controlled through the bends.
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Old Apr 6, 2020 | 06:10 PM
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If I was to fit an ABS system today I would simple choose one of the newest production Bosch systems fitted to an OE car. They are so fast now that I doubt us mere mortals would notice the difference on a MS version to a road version.
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