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as I’ll be running a paddle clutch with heavy duty pressure plate I’m thinking of installing a hydraulic clutch
to try and make the pedal a bit lighter
Has anyone fitted one and what’s there thoughts
which kits out there are recommended
many thanks
as I’ll be running a paddle clutch with heavy duty pressure plate I’m thinking of installing a hydraulic clutch
to try and make the pedal a bit lighter
Has anyone fitted one and what’s there thoughts
which kits out there are recommended
many thanks
You will not be disappointed if you go for the hydraulic clutch conversion, it makes a big difference to the feel and operation compared to the cable set up.I bought mine from Reyland Motorsports.There are 2 types, centre push and side push. The side push does require a lug to be welded on to the bell-housing so the slave cylinder is externally mounted so some people prefer the centre push as no modification is required to it. Both seem to work well so its down to your personal preference.
How easy are the kits to install
i can get the lug welded no problem
may concern is the pedal end
has anyone got any pics
cheers
I would advise getting it fitted by a Cosworth specialist as its not a straight forward job.Getting the clutch pedal to line up with the other pedals is tricky and making it look factory fitted is the key. My hydraulic fluid container nicely fitted with no damage to the firewall. Pedals lined up nicely.
I was going to use a side mounted slave even had the lug mounted to the bell housing. But it sits so close to the floor I decided it’s not for me. Plus the tilton one is really reliable. And easy to fit. You just supply them with the measurements they need and they supply the bearing. The bearing mount is an interference fit on the input shaft nose cone as well so no messing about
I'm interested in the answer to this as looking at upgrading my clutch and uprateing my T5 box over the winter so would like to know where and what to buy.
I want a internal centre push so want quality items as don't want to be taking the box out every five minutes.
I'm interested in the answer to this as looking at upgrading my clutch and uprateing my T5 box over the winter so would like to know where and what to buy.
I want a internal centre push so want quality items as don't want to be taking the box out every five minutes.
There are various places which sell the centre push kit and somewhere like Reyland Motorsport have installed plenty so have the expertise to do it. You are right that it needs to be with a quality kit as the slave cylinder is internal so is a gearbox out if there are any problems.
Yes this is the route I’m going internal centre push
i think it’s from a v6 Mondeo
you can buy the spacers separately but not sure which it is
reyland kit will be good and has been about for years
I'm interested in the answer to this as looking at upgrading my clutch and uprateing my T5 box over the winter so would like to know where and what to buy.
I want a internal centre push so want quality items as don't want to be taking the box out every five minutes.
rod tarrys car ran the tilton bearing without issue
Reyland kit uses a omega slave and others use a Mondeo v6 slave.
Slaves are not a problem as they are fitted to millions of cars with mega miles. So either will be fine.
Tilton are good but expensive and have nice threaded adjustment.
I’ve herd to many stories about normal car bearings being used with heavy covers to risk it in mine. That’s what made my mind up a little more cost saves a lot of heart ache if your stuck on the side of the road with no clutch thinking fucking mondeo bearing.
I’ve herd to many stories about normal car bearings being used with heavy covers to risk it in mine. That’s what made my mind up a little more cost saves a lot of heart ache if your stuck on the side of the road with no clutch thinking fucking mondeo bearing.
lol I will let you know Andy😂
I will start to fit mine after rally day...
I’ve herd to many stories about normal car bearings being used with heavy covers to risk it in mine. That’s what made my mind up a little more cost saves a lot of heart ache if your stuck on the side of the road with no clutch thinking fucking mondeo bearing.
yotally agree
the Mondeo you can buy the better tilton or Sachs brand
which is what I’ll be going for
I’m looking at getting bits separately
does anyone know the stroke of the master cylinder or are they all the same
im going for the .625 for a lighter feel.
cheers
should've worded it better lol so thiers no benefits to having one over the other? Reason I ask is my shells being fabbed at the mo and instructed fabricator to do a cut out in the tunnel so have more room to get to side push it hasn't been done yet so would save some work if centre is same
From what I've read both do same job as well as each other.
Some say you can access the side one for maintenance, but it's so tight I don't think that's really practical. So I'm considering centre for a neater installation.
Thanks for that mate I spoke with Ahmed about it years ago and he mentioned access to side push being a pain and to make space think I'll just do that seeing as shells being chopped about
From what I've read both do same job as well as each other.
Some say you can access the side one for maintenance, but it's so tight I don't think that's really practical. So I'm considering centre for a neater installation.
They are both well tried and tested, the slight advantage of the side push is easy access to the slave cylinder as the centre push is gearbox out if there is a problem.
When I phone Martin at reyland and asked him about what was better between centre and side push he says one isn’t better than the other the only reason he uses centre push is for twin plate clutches
I was told I’ll need a centre push for my clutch if I remember right. Plus my thinking is a proper tiltion bearing for a motorsport cover is going to be way more reliable than an e30 external one mounted on my box
Fook knows. I read loads about normal car slave cylinders being a problem as well so based on rod never having issue with his tilton one was the only option for me. Was years ago I got my twin plate clutch now. Sure I remember mark saying about using a centre push bearing
I have a very strong clutch cover on mine and Reyland sells the side push for these heavy duty covers, the side push has leverage on its side due to the arm. If you allow a side hatch or working room in the tunnel you could swap out a slave really quickly. I used a dry break connection on mine so bleeding would take seconds. (If in doubt you could carry a spare) but mine was faultless on the small miles I did. Changing a centre push is gearbox out time so I would invest in the best centre push you can.
You can ring tilton they really know there stuff. They need a few measurements then tell you what you need. The bearing mount screws onto a boss that’s an interference fit on the input shaft nose cone. There adjustable via a screw thread and locking nut as well so they told me. May as well pay the extra and do right first time in my book. I’m definitely going to try over engineer everything I can on mine
Just had word back from fabricator who's a friend of Charlie Shaw asked him what he runs he said side push strengthened arm no issues will be going that route mentioned land rover cylinder for mine
Just had word back from fabricator who's a friend if Charlie Shaw asked him what he runs he said side push strengthened arm no issues will be going that route mentioned land rover cylinder for mine
Don't forget you need to get a lug welded on to your bell housing to fit the slave cylinder. The fabricator should be able to do it for you.
Hydraulic clutch conversion
