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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 06:23 PM
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After some hard made decisions this week including somethings that impact my health (don't worry I'm not dying, well at least not any quicker than usual)
I think it's come time to break my 3 Door as it worth quite a few bob in bits.

The engine is currently having a complete rebuild and will be brand new when finished, I'd like a rough idea of value for the engine then if there's any interest go about stripping and breaking the whole car.

So let me know what you reckon price wise

Oh and please don't start pm'ing me asking for any bits yet as the engine would have to go first and then I'd do a proper advert with everything on.

Engine Spec as follows it will come brand new with Zero Miles on it:

CGI 200 Ex-WRC Block (requires remote oil thermostat and cooler)
10 Long Studs (will come with modified water pump)
Wet Ductile Iron Liners
JE Short Skirt Pistons 92mm 8.5 C/R
ZRP I-Beam Long 133.5mm Con Rods
ZRP Billet Steel Crank with 84mm Stroke giving 2240cc
All ARP bolts
Oil Spray Jets
High Pressure and Flow Oil Pump
Wide Wing Sump with a Blue Sprint Sump Baffle
Big Ported Head 27mm Inlet 27mm Exhaust
Head has had a full strip down fitted with new seats, new guides and new seals, looks brand new
Super High lift Inlet cam (Bigger than a BD16+) Cam machined for WRC Cam Trigger
Standard Exhaust Cam
Will come with Cam cover and associated cam trigger brackets

Can also come with following:

Hart Inlet Manifold with 3" DWB Throttle Body
ID1000cc Injectors and Billet Fuel Rail and Aeromotive FPR
Twin 044 Pump System with Under Car Swirl Pot all braided lines
Nortech Twin Scroll Manifold
Tial 44mm External Wastegate
Borg Warner 7670EFR Turbo 1.05 Exhaust Housing
100mm Airtec Intercooler
Full 4 Port Breather System with -10 Braided Lines
Remote Oil Filter, Remote Oil Thermostat and Oil Cooler system fitted with -10 Braided Lines
Exhaust System 4” Downpipe into 3.5” for the rest all Stainless Steel with V-Band Clamps
New Independent Wastegate Silenced Exhaust system centre under car exit.
EMU ECU with wiring harness (all low down mapping done upto 1 bar will need another couple of hours on the dyno)

This engine will easily make 600+ bhp figures and if used with the BW turbo an absolute low down torque animal too.

So there you go let me know what you think?

Cheers Rich

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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 06:38 PM
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Hi mate, I am interested in this but have no idea on value. I dont need the ecu, I pron don't need manifold and turbo, nor hart as bought one off some wally off here. Let me know
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 08:45 PM
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If you do brake it I'll buy your rear beam if you have a modded one
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 08:56 PM
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Tastey should get snapped up that mate just as a guide i was quoted 18k for 600 bhp using said manifold turbo top dollar motor that
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 08:58 PM
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I'll take the hart with dbw nortec and efr if toby doesnt need it lol keep me in mind mate

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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 09:41 PM
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Just to get the ball rolling rich ,I will swap 2 kidneys
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by james kiely
Just to get the ball rolling rich ,I will swap 2 kidneys
I don't think you would have much need for the engine if you go with both kidneys....better off with 1 kidney and a lung.
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 07:51 AM
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Sonic, do you want to pm me a ROUGH price for the first part of the post, less the turbo and manifold and ecu and inlet side so I have an idea if it is in my ball park or not. That is if you would consider doing it that way.

Sorry to hear about the health problems.
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
Sonic, do you want to pm me a ROUGH price for the first part of the post, less the turbo and manifold and ecu and inlet side so I have an idea if it is in my ball park or not. That is if you would consider doing it that way.

Sorry to hear about the health problems.
PM sent Toby

Cheers Rich
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
PM sent Toby

Cheers Rich
Thanks Rich. Replied.
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 11:55 AM
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Awesome spec engine, wish i had the money. Glwts mate
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 12:11 PM
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Cgi 200 missed that bloody rare that mate cant say ive seen any in the years ive been looking carbon graphite inpregnated
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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Hi mate hope all is good tempted some nice bits
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 12:44 PM
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Shame that your breaking rich it's an awesome car, but needs must. How do u identify a cgi block?
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 01:03 PM
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hi rich
i thought the cgi blocks were only done for the focus
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Originally Posted by lee2cossies
Shame that your breaking rich it's an awesome car, but needs must. How do u identify a cgi block?
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i thought the cgi blocks were only done for the focus
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It's uber rare only made for the works wrc team I'm lead to believe.
You can tell a CGI as the block is all mottled on the machined surfaces (you can see the carbon graphite impregnated into the block)
It hasn't got the oil filter machined into the block just has a take off front and rear for -10 oil pipes.

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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
I don't think you would have much need for the engine if you go with both kidneys....better off with 1 kidney and a lung.

Ok I will up my offer to a kidney ,lung ,and half a brain
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Originally Posted by james kiely
Ok I will up my offer to a kidney ,lung ,and half a brain
Although my health might not be the best I don't require any organs at this point

Cold hard cash on the other hand

Rich
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 04:04 PM
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Have you considered selling the complete car?
pm if so?
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Being honest I am very surprised to see you are using a ZRP crank. I've had one customer with one of those twist albeit not a yb one.

It's a serious spec engine but the Chinese bits are a bit of a put off for me so make it hard to price
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Sorry to hear Rich.
When you get round to pricing up the other bits, let me know a price on the gearbox please
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Originally Posted by 3dr
Have you considered selling the complete car?
pm if so?
Pm'd you mate

Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Being honest I am very surprised to see you are using a ZRP crank. I've had one customer with one of those twist albeit not a yb one.

It's a serious spec engine but the Chinese bits are a bit of a put off for me so make it hard to price
I've heard nothing but good things about ZRP from two independent engine builders, you'll find all cranks are made in China now lol

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Sorry to hear Rich.
When you get round to pricing up the other bits, let me know a price on the gearbox please
Pm'd you mate

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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 08:47 PM
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If you are going to brake it I'm seriously interested in your rear beam
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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
If you are going to brake it I'm seriously interested in your rear beam
Engine has to sell first then I will.

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Old Aug 6, 2015 | 08:29 PM
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Fantastic spec,are you running a wrc breather?if not what do you have?
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Old Aug 7, 2015 | 11:28 AM
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I need some parts so if please pm me when you are breaking it
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Also drop me a pm please regarding all parts when available
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Originally Posted by Joe Grp4 Escort
Also drop me a pm please regarding all parts when available

Hi Joe, you live in the same town as me!
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I will have the turbo and exh manifold mate
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by R4N SS
I will have the turbo and exh manifold mate
You got a price then slyboy?
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Originally Posted by smiley
You got a price then slyboy?
No but im praying it will be cheap
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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by R4N SS
No but im praying it will be cheap
Parts new turbo 1200 manifold 850 i dont think these are new need to be around 1500 realistically i think i will just buy new tbh ran sounds like your building a nice spec
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Sorry to see you breaking it Rich

I wouldn't have a clue what the engine is worth but shortly you know what you have paid for the new parts you could add it all up together 👍👍👍👍
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Where are you at with this Rich. ....and are you doing ok?
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Well Rich sorry to hear about your health hope your better soon.

I dont want any parts but as your first post asking for a price. 22k for complete engine and management.

Regards
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update please?
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