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Sonic Boom 23-07-2015 06:23 PM

Big Spec Engine - What's it Worth Thread
 
After some hard made decisions this week including somethings that impact my health (don't worry I'm not dying, well at least not any quicker than usual)
I think it's come time to break my 3 Door as it worth quite a few bob in bits.

The engine is currently having a complete rebuild and will be brand new when finished, I'd like a rough idea of value for the engine then if there's any interest go about stripping and breaking the whole car.

So let me know what you reckon price wise

Oh and please don't start pm'ing me asking for any bits yet as the engine would have to go first and then I'd do a proper advert with everything on.

Engine Spec as follows it will come brand new with Zero Miles on it:

CGI 200 Ex-WRC Block (requires remote oil thermostat and cooler)
10 Long Studs (will come with modified water pump)
Wet Ductile Iron Liners
JE Short Skirt Pistons 92mm 8.5 C/R
ZRP I-Beam Long 133.5mm Con Rods
ZRP Billet Steel Crank with 84mm Stroke giving 2240cc
All ARP bolts
Oil Spray Jets
High Pressure and Flow Oil Pump
Wide Wing Sump with a Blue Sprint Sump Baffle
Big Ported Head 27mm Inlet 27mm Exhaust
Head has had a full strip down fitted with new seats, new guides and new seals, looks brand new
Super High lift Inlet cam (Bigger than a BD16+) Cam machined for WRC Cam Trigger
Standard Exhaust Cam
Will come with Cam cover and associated cam trigger brackets

Can also come with following:

Hart Inlet Manifold with 3" DWB Throttle Body
ID1000cc Injectors and Billet Fuel Rail and Aeromotive FPR
Twin 044 Pump System with Under Car Swirl Pot all braided lines
Nortech Twin Scroll Manifold
Tial 44mm External Wastegate
Borg Warner 7670EFR Turbo 1.05 Exhaust Housing
100mm Airtec Intercooler
Full 4 Port Breather System with -10 Braided Lines
Remote Oil Filter, Remote Oil Thermostat and Oil Cooler system fitted with -10 Braided Lines
Exhaust System 4” Downpipe into 3.5” for the rest all Stainless Steel with V-Band Clamps
New Independent Wastegate Silenced Exhaust system centre under car exit.
EMU ECU with wiring harness (all low down mapping done upto 1 bar will need another couple of hours on the dyno)

This engine will easily make 600+ bhp figures and if used with the BW turbo an absolute low down torque animal too.

So there you go let me know what you think?

Cheers Rich

Caddyshack 23-07-2015 06:38 PM

Hi mate, I am interested in this but have no idea on value. I dont need the ecu, I pron don't need manifold and turbo, nor hart as bought one off some wally off here. Let me know

ajamesc 23-07-2015 08:45 PM

If you do brake it I'll buy your rear beam if you have a modded one

smiley 23-07-2015 08:56 PM

Tastey should get snapped up that mate just as a guide i was quoted 18k for 600 bhp using said manifold turbo top dollar motor that

smiley 23-07-2015 08:58 PM

I'll take the hart with dbw nortec and efr if toby doesnt need it lol keep me in mind mate

james kiely 23-07-2015 09:41 PM

Just to get the ball rolling rich ,I will swap 2 kidneys :cry::cry::cry:

Caddyshack 24-07-2015 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by james kiely (Post 6609182)
Just to get the ball rolling rich ,I will swap 2 kidneys :cry::cry::cry:

I don't think you would have much need for the engine if you go with both kidneys....better off with 1 kidney and a lung.

Caddyshack 24-07-2015 07:51 AM

Sonic, do you want to pm me a ROUGH price for the first part of the post, less the turbo and manifold and ecu and inlet side so I have an idea if it is in my ball park or not. That is if you would consider doing it that way.

Sorry to hear about the health problems.

Sonic Boom 24-07-2015 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Caddyshack (Post 6609232)
Sonic, do you want to pm me a ROUGH price for the first part of the post, less the turbo and manifold and ecu and inlet side so I have an idea if it is in my ball park or not. That is if you would consider doing it that way.

Sorry to hear about the health problems.

PM sent Toby

Cheers Rich

Caddyshack 24-07-2015 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Sonic Boom (Post 6609243)
PM sent Toby

Cheers Rich

Thanks Rich. Replied. :top:

Focosmitch 24-07-2015 11:55 AM

Awesome spec engine, wish i had the money. Glwts mate :)

smiley 24-07-2015 12:11 PM

Cgi 200 missed that bloody rare that mate cant say ive seen any in the years ive been looking carbon graphite inpregnated :shocked:

C2 MAK 24-07-2015 12:41 PM

Hi mate hope all is good tempted some nice bits;-)

lee2cossies 24-07-2015 12:44 PM

Shame that your breaking rich it's an awesome car, but needs must. How do u identify a cgi block?

MK MOTORSPORT 24-07-2015 01:03 PM

hi rich
i thought the cgi blocks were only done for the focus
mark

Sonic Boom 24-07-2015 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by lee2cossies (Post 6609346)
Shame that your breaking rich it's an awesome car, but needs must. How do u identify a cgi block?


Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT (Post 6609351)
hi rich
i thought the cgi blocks were only done for the focus
mark

It's uber rare only made for the works wrc team I'm lead to believe.
You can tell a CGI as the block is all mottled on the machined surfaces (you can see the carbon graphite impregnated into the block)
It hasn't got the oil filter machined into the block just has a take off front and rear for -10 oil pipes.

Rich

james kiely 24-07-2015 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Caddyshack (Post 6609231)
I don't think you would have much need for the engine if you go with both kidneys....better off with 1 kidney and a lung.


Ok I will up my offer to a kidney ,lung ,and half a brain:cry:

Sonic Boom 25-07-2015 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by james kiely (Post 6609491)
Ok I will up my offer to a kidney ,lung ,and half a brain:cry:

Although my health might not be the best I don't require any organs at this point :cry:

Cold hard cash on the other hand :grin:

Rich

3dr 28-07-2015 04:04 PM

Have you considered selling the complete car?
pm if so?

JonnyBravo 28-07-2015 04:15 PM

Being honest I am very surprised to see you are using a ZRP crank. I've had one customer with one of those twist albeit not a yb one.

It's a serious spec engine but the Chinese bits are a bit of a put off for me so make it hard to price

fraser9764 28-07-2015 04:41 PM

Sorry to hear Rich.
When you get round to pricing up the other bits, let me know a price on the gearbox please :top:

Sonic Boom 28-07-2015 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by 3dr (Post 6610556)
Have you considered selling the complete car?
pm if so?

Pm'd you mate


Originally Posted by JonnyBravo (Post 6610559)
Being honest I am very surprised to see you are using a ZRP crank. I've had one customer with one of those twist albeit not a yb one.

It's a serious spec engine but the Chinese bits are a bit of a put off for me so make it hard to price

I've heard nothing but good things about ZRP from two independent engine builders, you'll find all cranks are made in China now lol


Originally Posted by fraser9764 (Post 6610568)
Sorry to hear Rich.
When you get round to pricing up the other bits, let me know a price on the gearbox please :top:

Pm'd you mate

Rich

ajamesc 28-07-2015 08:47 PM

If you are going to brake it I'm seriously interested in your rear beam

Sonic Boom 28-07-2015 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by ajamesc (Post 6610661)
If you are going to brake it I'm seriously interested in your rear beam

Engine has to sell first then I will.

Rich

Jec1969 06-08-2015 08:29 PM

Fantastic spec,are you running a wrc breather?if not what do you have?

R4N SS 07-08-2015 11:28 AM

I need some parts so if please pm me when you are breaking it

Joe Grp4 Escort 08-08-2015 11:18 AM

Also drop me a pm please regarding all parts when available

20/20 vision 11-08-2015 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Grp4 Escort (Post 6613660)
Also drop me a pm please regarding all parts when available


Hi Joe, you live in the same town as me!

R4N SS 11-08-2015 04:02 PM

I will have the turbo and exh manifold mate

smiley 11-08-2015 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by R4N SS (Post 6614521)
I will have the turbo and exh manifold mate

You got a price then slyboy? :cry:

R4N SS 12-08-2015 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by smiley (Post 6614525)
You got a price then slyboy? :cry:

No but im praying it will be cheap :cry:

smiley 12-08-2015 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by R4N SS (Post 6614732)
No but im praying it will be cheap :cry:

Parts new turbo 1200 manifold 850 i dont think these are new need to be around 1500 realistically i think i will just buy new tbh ran :king: sounds like your building a nice spec

marco polo 17-08-2015 06:32 PM

Sorry to see you breaking it Rich

I wouldn't have a clue what the engine is worth but shortly you know what you have paid for the new parts you could add it all up together 👍👍👍👍

Caddyshack 11-09-2015 08:23 PM

Where are you at with this Rich. ....and are you doing ok?

costina 12-09-2015 05:10 AM

Well Rich sorry to hear about your health hope your better soon.

I dont want any parts but as your first post asking for a price. 22k for complete engine and management.

Regards
Paul

R4N SS 14-09-2015 09:56 AM

update please?


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