if i were to buy the complete package to slot into a mk3 escort ,engine/ecu/mounts /box /shafts etc

the full monty

doesnt have to be mega powerful ,270 /300 would be nice ,but its for a track car so will have to be able to withstand some revving etc

doesnt have to be new but a recent build would be nice

 

When i added mine up it was a shock, sure I ended up with near a grand just in the bare engine, mine is ST170 based, I used a new black top head and st170 valve springs.

This figure included clutch plate, new gaskets, ARP's, timing belt kit and water pump etc.

Then there is management, manifolds, mapping, I upgrade the exhaust housing on the turbo, loadsa other bits here and there like silicone hoses and other random bits.

The conversion cost me a lot more than anticipated and i already had suitable injectors and management etc

I think realistically you would be looking at Ł2k minimum for anything worth buying, even at that price you would be doing very well.

 

cheers mate ,i was expecting in around the 1500/1750 mark for something decent so im in the right territory .
anything in particular that would be needed engine wise being a track based car ?.wouild the 170 valve springs be adequete do you think

 

I put 7k into mine.....
Hmmmm, 2k would be a budget from scratch for your target imo.

 

That would require finding some proper bargains too, so many little extras when starting from scratch

 

i just dont want this to turn into another money pit ,as it will only see 4 to 5 track days a year mate

i would probably be better off buying a unfinished project or the likes i suppose studabear

 

Difficulty is you don't quite know exactly what your getting then, I've a fortune in my car due to massive issues when i converted to cossie management and messing about with second hand cvh's, I then got rid of the cossie stuff and bought new megasquirt, had that mapped for cvh turbo, got sick of the cvh and went full zetec, but now its mapped perfect and was all worth it and I know the car pretty much inside out.

 

Totally depends on what spec you want, i forget what mine totalled but it was a lot

Paid Ł120 for slivertop engine, Ł800 for carrillo rods, Ł650 wiseco pistons, Ł150 for bore and bearings, another Ł100+ for gaskets, bolts etc, Ł800 for roller barrel inlet, custom plenum, modified 200sx exhaust manifold, turbo, external wastegate, piper BD10spec grind cams and spring and pulleys Ł650ish, DTA ecu Ł550, custom loom, siemens injectors Ł200ish, custom fly as it was rwd using a T5 box, helix cossie 4 paddle clutch, braided hoses and dash fittings were a shitload and mapping.

Of course you can do it cheaper, some just use a 1.8l silvertop, skim 1mm off the pistons and run as is for 250bhp. But dont expect any more.

 

Probably better off just buying something like this

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/felt-z85-wiggle-exclusive/

 

Yes, I am north of Ł5,000 on engine alone..
but it is a fully built engine, but yeah, the budget didn't happen for me

 

yes you are right mate and i dont want to end up buying someone elses headache i have a couple of cvhs here ,but from what you guys running the zetecs i dont want to get caught up wasting money on this as ive too much money tied up in cars already lol

im afraid i wont be touching the spec like yours had fudgey ,this is merely a track toy for fun only
if 250 is achievable at my budget then thats okay

aint that the truth

you must have a great spec for 5+k mate

 

not that great!... but that's for new turbo, manifold, fuel pump, fuel system, etc etc
Not just for the built engine. But adding thing's like Area six race head with big valves etc cost me and I could have saved on machining and engine assembly if I had shopped around but was very happy with the work done on it.

 

I forgot to add the big valve head, and thngs like pro alloy ic, rad, fuel cell, custom header/breathers etc etc etc.

As said, you can do it on the cheap, but you will always want more power lol

 

Im Ł2300 into mine complete inc a load of bits I didnt need. Thats ST170 bottom end, blacktop head and 1.8mm gasket.

 

mines only a budget build but ive done it for under a grand just by getting parts when they're cheap.
Ł500 got me a t25 with manifold, pectal management, gearbox, blacktop head and everything else I needed plus more as a job lot, all I had to do was buy an st170 bottom end for 150, head gasket and bolts for about 70 and a set of driveshafts. im sure ill need more bits when I drop it in but should still be under a grand and hopefully around 240 brake.

 

if i can learn from you guys what to avoid ,i might save a few quid as i have no idea about zetecs lol

how much is the area six race head?

thats the problem fudgey ,it can get out of hand quite quickly ,but i need to stick to a sensible budget in case i put the car in the barriers

what bhp figure are you aiming for mate?

that sounds like you have got some decent parts for good money neill ,but i want to try buy a package built up already if possible

 

Not sure how much the head cost me as it was in with some round two works I had done, it was over Ł500 though for definite. My advice would be if you are happy with 250hp then use the route suggested previously.
If you are wanted bigger numbers expect the cost to rise significantly!

 

yes i think i will stick with your advice and go with the 250 spec as i will need to consider the gearbox and the rest of the running gear aswell .the car will be fully stripped so will still have a good power to weight ratio.

i want a something for some funtrack days ,nothing serious

 

250hp if im lucky on my current turbo.. Once I change turbo ill be good for 300hp. ST170 bottom ends will take upto around 350hp but tbh its in a MK2 fiesta.. 300hp is gonna be too much on pepperpots!

Anyways, checked my excel sheet and its Ł2180.

that includes buying stuff which I didn't use including manifold adapters, intercooler which didn't fit etc



As you can see, I also bought silicone hoses etc which bumped the price up

 

cheers buddy
thats a great help seeing the breakdown of parts required and you can see how all the smaller bits add up