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Old Jun 16, 2014 | 02:15 AM
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Morning. My s2 running 1.6 cvh on mfi is needing a new block at least if I had a budget of say 1000 - 1500 what options would I have for engine swap? What parts would I need? And what to do about management?

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Old Jun 16, 2014 | 09:10 AM
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Lots of questions there.

1500 will get a bottom end with rods and pistons but not fitting and maybe some costs while buulding.

management system is around 1200 for something worthy.
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Cheers Janno but I'm going to do the work myself as I'm on a tight budget for now just after a reliable 200-250 bhp.

Looking at a silvertop conversion but need some help what power do the standard rods/pistons take and how do you go about lowering the compression ratio?

Does anyone have a link to a fitting guide?

Also does anyone know what management to run as I'm a complete novice with it but wanting to learn thanks
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Better + cheaper option would be an ST170 bottom end with a Blacktop head, bottom end has supposedly been proving at 350bhp so plenty of strong enough for a moderate build.
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Better + cheaper option would be an ST170 bottom end with a Blacktop head, bottom end has supposedly been proving at 350bhp so plenty of strong enough for a moderate build.
Mines done 293bhp at the flywheel on a st170 bottom end, only mod to bottom end is ARP conrod bolts.

It still isn't a mega cheap option even if you can do it all yourself, a lot of little costs here and there soon add up, things like suitable clutch, all the gaskets and seals, I reckon my engine still stood me at a grand, I did use a brand new head.

Then the op needs management and mapping. Deffo worth him having a look through Karlos's guide though.

https://passionford.com/forum/ford-e...onversion.html
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Ideal thanks for the replies looks like this is the route I will take.

What can I do about management as the car is currently on mfi. Is the fiesta efi conversion suitable or will I need to go aftermarket

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OFAB/OFAC I think would be your easiest option, not so easy to come across these days though.
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would that be the fiesta management?

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aftermarket would be my choice.
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aftermarket would be my choice.
It's all to do with cost and my limited electronic skills mate or I would
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You have to think about the things like aftermarket will have a new loom, new modern ecu, more features and a much bigger selection of mappers compared to the old fiesta ofac/ofab. Unless anybody does a decent off the shelf chip for a zetec turbo??
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Originally Posted by studabear
You have to think about the things like aftermarket will have a new loom, new modern ecu, more features and a much bigger selection of mappers compared to the old fiesta ofac/ofab. Unless anybody does a decent off the shelf chip for a zetec turbo??
I see what you mean so is megasquirt a decent system? Going for a decent rebuilt efi cvh now as it's keeping the car a little more original
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Plenty of MS mappers around, good DIY too.
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Going for the ms 2 as it's within my budget can anyone tell me wich one to get as there seems to be different ones I will be running an efi cvh.

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Have a look at boost monkeys site, they do a proper built ecu with a better connecter for the loom.
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Originally Posted by studabear
Have a look at boost monkeys site, they do a proper built ecu with a better connecter for the loom.
Just looked there I see they have a proper conversion kit coming soon so I have emailed them to ask for details and dates could make my life a whole lot easier
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