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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:16 PM
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Few pics of my poor car lol
I'm guessing a rod let go on the way back from the last breakfast at goodwood a few weeks ago. Started to take her apart so I can get a clear idea of what I'm going to need to build a new engine

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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Is that a big hole in the block?Or is it just oil cause the pic isnt very clear.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Is that a big hole in the block?Or is it just oil cause the pic isnt very clear.
No it's not a big hole it's a massive hole lol
I'm 99% sure it's scrap my new block will have liners.
Head looks ok ill drop the valves out tomorrow fingers crossed the crank is ok
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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ooh that let go big time mate


was you giving it stick up in the rev range ?
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:35 PM
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Is it me or does the block look to have liners in it anyway? Something big gone wrong there for that too happen!
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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ooh that let go big time mate


was you giving it stick up in the rev range ?
Not hugely mate just one of them things and a bit of my luck I guess lol
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Jesus that must have been a Big Bang... Did it happen under full boost?
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:13 PM
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200 blocks ain't all that then lol

Sorry to see this

I hope it had a worth while death like the 4i did

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ebonycossie4x4
Jesus that must have been a Big Bang... Did it happen under full boost?
You would be lucky to hear yourself think in it with my exhaust and gearbox lol.
But no mate not really was chatting to my bro herd abit of a funny noise and it miss fired and lost power started to smoke so I switched it off and costed to a lay by
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i+
200 blocks ain't all that then lol

Sorry to see this

I hope it had a worth while death like the 4i did

Steve
Ha ha not many blocks will argue with a un attached con rod smashing round mate! Still on wards and up wards I'll 650 it now
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:29 PM
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Must of been a bang and a half! Fuck, it, go for a monster power build now, best excuse for one ever.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:30 PM
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So what causes something like this to happen then Andy??

And what next then pal?? Bigger and more power I'm guessing
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Originally Posted by gjh
Must of been a bang and a half! Fuck, it, go for a monster power build now, best excuse for one ever.
I'm going too
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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What spec was the engine before hand james?
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi
So what causes something like this to happen then Andy??

And what next then pal?? Bigger and more power I'm guessing
Hard to say till the block is stripped iver the rod or piston broke up!
Iver way the rod has pushed the piston to the top of the bore against the head then slipped to one side and gone through the bore!
I will build a new bottom end / head with 650bhp in mind then put it back together as it was to run it in. Then change the turbo and exhaust manifold and go for some power
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by andy130
What spec was the engine before hand james?
It had an m.a.d 500bhp set up
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:38 PM
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Good too see your gonna soldier on with it

would like to find out the cause of the rod failure, not seen one that high up on a YB personally.

hope the head is all good minus the valves/guides ofcourse

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cossie Sean
Good too see your gonna soldier on with it

would like to find out the cause of the rod failure, not seen one that high up on a YB personally.

hope the head is all good minus the valves/guides ofcourse

Sean

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at the mo the head looks ok ill drop the valves out tomorrow and get a good look at it
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:10 PM
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Bloody hell mate thats a mess, on a plus side the oil will stop the underside going rusty lol

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve.
Bloody hell mate thats a mess, on a plus side the oil will stop the underside going rusty lol

Steve
Just spent 3 grand having the underside done new iner and outer sills and the odd bit here and there lol
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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Not good Andy; i blame Chris for being in the car with you!

perfect excuse to go for more horses though, what turbo you going for?
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
Not good Andy; i blame Chris for being in the car with you!

perfect excuse to go for more horses though, what turbo you going for?
Early days yet but I'll hope to take the twin scroll Borg route
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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Early days yet but I'll hope to take the twin scroll Borg route
650hp will be a beast!
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:29 PM
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650hp will be a beast!
Yes but a long road I'd also have to do a 3.5 inch exhaust system/down pipe mod my fly wheel fit a small basket twin plate ap clutch and hydrolic conversion and would won't a 6 degree rear beam and supra diff!
I'm in no rush it's not going any wear I'd like to think it will be driving by this time next year the latest

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So can someone tell me, what has caused it
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi
So can someone tell me, what has caused it
I said in the reply to your last post bud.
Most likely rod broke pushed piston to top of bore then slipped to one side of the piston and through the bore. I'll say for sure when the bottom half is stripped
It's just one of them things
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Oh sorry Andy, it's my age I'll give myself one of these
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 06:08 PM
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any block will do that with a broken rod ive seen a 3306 cat block just like that, I could fist it lol


is it time for 600+ hp then now ?
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi
Oh sorry Andy, it's my age I'll give myself one of these
Becoming a habit that Pete !!
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Becoming a habit that Pete !!

Sure is Bruv

You'll get it too
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This would sort you out Andy

http://mt-motorsport.com/marko/index...oducts_id=1573

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve.
I have 2 options for blocks a I've a friend who has a number of them including an rs500 one. He also has a mountune wrc block I can have for 800 but he is a bit of a helmet lol he also has a number of standard grind cranks for 400.
Or I can get a block from opplinger his are 650 iver way it will get iron liners fitted be long studded and have oil spray jets fitted

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi
Sure is Bruv

You'll get it too

No he wont youve been soppy ever since ive known you
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
I have 2 options for blocks a I've a friend who has a number of them including an rs500 one. He also has a mountune wrc block I can have for 800 but he is a bit of a helmet lol he also has a number of standard grind cranks for 400.
Or I can get a block from opplinger his are 650 iver way it will get iron liners fitted be long studded and have oil spray jets fitted
I that fuller by anychance
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I that fuller by anychance
Yes mate it's hard to get him to sell stuff lol he has 7 standard grind cranks a new rs500 block! And a number of other 200 blocks! He got a job load of bits from oakfields
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Wow what a hole
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
Yes mate it's hard to get him to sell stuff lol he has 7 standard grind cranks a new rs500 block! And a number of other 200 blocks! He got a job load of bits from oakfields
Yes he did say i ask for stuff but never see it
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
any block will do that with a broken rod ive seen a 3306 cat block just like that, I could fist it lol


is it time for 600+ hp then now ?
Yes it will go back together with more power but maybe after being ran in as it was! But every thing will be built with 650 in mind is the plan
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Originally Posted by Jay,
Yes he did say i ask for stuff but never see it
I went up there the other week I see the stuff mate he has so much money's worth of parts kicking around it's un real.
He opened his locker and there was 7 cranks in there all baged up with paper work from being checked over! I see the mountune and rs500 block as well and he had a new set of longer arrow rods it's crazy the money he must in bits fuck knows why he don't just sell it all pile of sumps loads of rocker covers big wing sumps all sorts
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