Hi i have a 4x4 saph which was livemapped by pjmotorsport now the question iv got is does this graph look like its t34 greys 500ic 380ish bhp I think 315@wheels is what I was told at the time and I am thinking of putting in a ab07 cam 2bar boost what are your thoughts thanks heres the graph

 

sorry for the sideways pics iphone lol

 

My 3 door was mapped by PJ when I got it and then I had it properly livemapped by Karl Norris & the difference was night and day.

 

IVjust gotto price it all up really becouse his livemapped it might use him then you got rayland who was recommended to me by a mate msd are good aswell but I think rayland tbh mate the car to me feels dead but to my mates its fast so i guess the bugs bitten again lol

 

any tuners or someone that understands the graph?

 

only trouble is really you need a rolling road for a proper set mapp iv used castle performance back years ago the set them up on road it was crap lol

 

Dyno for sure

 

PJ is a joker, go and get it mapped by a professional before it melts!

 

why? reyland mapped mine,it was quick and lovely to drive!

 

Hi pal iv had it done about 2 years ago haven't really missed a beat before apart from the cold start problem that is lol

 

Iv heard all good things about Rayland mate might give him a bell book it in but just asking about the graph if anybody understands the dam thing really?

 

It only revs to just over 6k?

 

what boostdid it make the 385bhp

 

25psi and it holds that and doesent drop,

 

I am lost with this statement are you saying you would like yours set up on a rolling road ? as most folk don't trust the discrepancies with RR's

Chez is right when your car comes back from NMS plus Karl has your car a couple of days to also make sure you don't have any cold start problems.

Ronnie Amis has his set up by MSD at Blackpool so they can't be mugs either, so really it's your choice.

 

yeah sorry mate all i want is to somebody to have a look at the graph to see if its leaning out or not more then likely il prob be going back to pj as its his livemapped it and can it make the power at that boost on stock engine?and would an ab07 cam 2 bar boost make the 400 bhp its a t34/48?

 

to be honest i dont think its making the power claimed just now, a t34.48 will never make 400bhp, the cam will will help it make power a bit earlier and hold the power better,
as already mentioned above, do yourself a favour and avoid pj for any future mapping,
the mapping from there is famous for being bad, i've never seen it myself but just heard from many people i know and trust
if its currently running (supposed)385bhp on a t34.48 at 25psi, then i'd also be asking what type of magic wand he used to map it
i think they've been a little optimistic with the truth there in my honest opinion
you'd need to see a dyno plot with the lambda/AFR on it to see if its rich/lean etc, cant say without
greys should be ok at that kinda power level as long as the rest of the fuel system is up to scratch
so if its mapped right, then no need for it to be leaning out

 

what would you say its running then on a t34.48 at 25 psi?

 

Ok so what power should it make at 2bar with the cam roughly? If I'd used a diff tuner?

 

Mate we can't put it any clearer - do not go back to PJ.

When mine was live mapped properly by NMS they had looked at the chip PJ had burned and it contained no data below 2k revs and was very shonky above with unstable boost and ridiculously rich fuelling. 70 hp transmission loss is very generous - there's no way it's making the power he's said at the boost I'm afraid - mine wasn't quite making 400 with a hugely ported head and 32 psi on a t34.63 so at 25psi on a .48 you'll be seeing 350 max, prob slightly less.

If you're Midlands based theen I'd strongly recommend either NMS or Reyland, I've personally used both and they both have outsanding reputations for a good reason.......

 

Realistically it's a 350bhp car

 

NMS for me

 

Got my frs back from Karl on tuesday, NMS all the way

 

with full boost not hitting til 4300 rpm are you sure its a 0.48 housing ?

also the amb temp sensor location will have a massive effect on corrected power outputs.
I have had a car run on a dynapack with a din correction factor and with the amb temp sensor seeing 60d with it hung under the bonnet it added 60 whp in corrections !

we really need all the data from the dyno run to get a better picture of a true hp figure.

 

as said above i'd say its prob maxing out a little under 350bhp
i dont think adding anymore boost would give anymore power realy
as the exhaust housing on the turbo is going to be restricting it at that power
so more boost will prob just make the EGT's higher and not make much more power if any

go somewhere that knows what they're doing, if you want more power then,
bigger hotside for the turbo (.63 etc), ab07 cam and DECENT map, i bet its a differant car to drive

 

Hi yeah the prob with the 63 would be lag i hate it around town im keeping the 48 as my turbo is just right never smoked the 10years iv had her so dont want to be messing around with it to much really will have to contact a few tuners and see whos available will most likely be rayland i think as his well recommended by everyone.

 

anybody on here thats added a ab07 cam to this setup has it made massive diff in power?

 

as above, it prob wont raise peak power much if any, but will give a broader power band,
the .63 isn't realy that laggy, but it is a bit more than your current turbo
i dont think you'll see anymore power without a turbo change, as its currently a limiting factor,
but a decent set up/map will prob make te car feel faster so well worth doing
cant go wrong with reyland, martin will keep you right

 

Thanks buddy good advice there I suppose all them cars with my spec are all 350 ish will keep this thread updated and will post up the new graph.

 

Just another one for you James what you recon I'd make if I did change the to 63 2bar and the said cam ? Thanks mate

 

peak power? prob around the 380 mark or slightly more(but for real this time)

 

If your in the midlands id be going to Tony @ turbo systems he's only in stoke that's where our 3dr is going when I get all the bits I need

 

Thanks yes iv heard all good things about him but more likely it's going reylands as its gotto be dynoed though as iv had it set up years ago by castle performance and it wasn't to my liking lol