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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 10:11 PM
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hi peeps I own a e reg escort rs turbo,just recently its been a nightmare to start from cold,if leave it overnight come start in morn from cold using no throttle fires up then cuts out,if I then start it up give bit throttle when fires its ok ,seems once warmed up its fine ,ive had the cold start valve unplugged now for a while as gave me isues ,but always starts first key till last couple weeks,ive checked earth wires,i had new fuel pump last year,changed plugs fuel filter,want go ford fair sun so any advice be much welcomed cheers peeps
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 08:08 AM
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sounds possible metering unit take filter off push flap down a little and get a mate to start it up
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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K(E)-Jetronic usually suffers from different hot start issues, cold start problems are a little bit harder to find.

As it's running fine when warmed up and also starts fine when warm (does it really?) I think there's no problem with fuel pump, fuel filter and the mechanical parts of the metering head.

How old are your injectors? Mechanical K-Jetronic injectors suffer from wear, older ones won't seal properly and start to drip when the engine is turned off. So the next morning your cylinders are flooded and the metering unit will take some time to get fuel into the lines, build up pressure and start the engine again. When your injectors are older than ~75k miles it might be a good (but not cheap) idea to replace them.

First thing I'd check is the auxilary air device. Take the hoses off and you should be able to see through a ~4 mm big hole inside. when you can't see through or just see a very small hole, soak it in brake cleaner overnight and then try to move the stuck plate inside with a very small screwdriver.

Second thing is the cold start valve. Take it off the inlet and check if it works for several seconds (8 iirc) when you start the car from cold.

Third thing is the water temperature sensor below the inlet manifold. Check the resistance of the sensor when the car is cold and when it's warmed up. Should be different. Someone here should know the exact values.

Fourth thing is a little bit tricky. It could be the ECU or the hydraulic device on the side of the metering head. Try to find the problem by testing the given fuel pressures.

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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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fifth thing is the the heated seat fuse, this isn't a heated seat fuse as the MK4 escort never had heated seats. This fuse is for fuel delivery on cold start up. If blown the engine will fire up and die, thats unless you keep a high enough RPM (2000 for example) until the engine has warmed up.

Its unlikely to be that, but worth a check seeing as it only takes 30 seconds.
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:05 PM
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rs mark u was spot on you legend was fuse cheers everywan for help really appreciate it ,so happy now
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ash 501
rs mark u was spot on you legend was fuse cheers everywan for help really appreciate it ,so happy now



But keep in mind:

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Mechanical K-Jetronic injectors suffer from wear, older ones won't seal properly and start to drip when the engine is turned off. When your injectors are older than ~75k miles it might be a good (but not cheap) idea to replace them.

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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ash 501
rs mark u was spot on you legend was fuse cheers everywan for help really appreciate it ,so happy now
No problem, here to help.
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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pop to a garage check your fuel mixture (emissions (co))
bet its lean!

opionion 2.5-3 warm

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Old Aug 19, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tondeur
pop to a garage check your fuel mixture (emissions (co))
bet its lean!
doesn't look like:

Originally Posted by ash 501
rs mark u was spot on you legend was fuse cheers everywan for help really appreciate it ,so happy now
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