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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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Hi does anyone know where I can get a reverse water pump impeller or complete pump for a blacktop 2.0 zetec? I've got a idler pulley setup at the moment but changing it so need a reverse pump. Cheers.

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Old Jul 21, 2013 | 03:13 PM
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robbie1988 was selling one a while i go he sent me pics at the time
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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Yeah I saw that I've messaged him but no reply so maybe it's no longer for sale.

Anyone know where I can get one of these?
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Old Jul 22, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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the 1.8 zetec and 2.0l zetec water pumps turn in opposite directions. I drilled out the shaft from a 2.0l and fitted it to a 1.8 pump. (or visa versa)
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Old Oct 13, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by LukeDaisley
the 1.8 zetec and 2.0l zetec water pumps turn in opposite directions. I drilled out the shaft from a 2.0l and fitted it to a 1.8 pump. (or visa versa)

Im not sure I understand this.i have a 2 litre blacktop engine does the water pump impeller spin the right way then clock wise?
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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the correct way depends on what belt set up you are using. serpentine as a posed to triangle.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 04:03 PM
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I'm using a Black Top with a Silver Top water pump to avoid using the extra idler pulley.

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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeDaisley
the correct way depends on what belt set up you are using. serpentine as a posed to triangle.
Ive gone triangle with the alternator at the back
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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Turbo Zetec ( Martin ) off here was going to get some made
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 02:35 PM
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Ik engineering do the reverse impeller for the blacktop
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by crazycage
Ik engineering do the reverse impeller for the blacktop
Will that come with a ribbed pulley for the aux belt?
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 06:44 PM
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The Silver Top water pump centre section and pulley can fit the Black Top pump
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
I'm using a Black Top with a Silver Top water pump to avoid using the extra idler pulley.
Unless I am mistaken you have a silver-top there, with the aluminium camshaft cover.

Escort and Fiesta silvertops share the same type, correct for rotating the same way as the engine. Mondeo silvertops pump rotates the wrong way but can be swapped for a Escort/Fiesta type. Blacktops (fiesta, with plastic cover, and duratech branded st170 engines) have only one pump type, which needs an idler, or the impeller (and pulley) changing.

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The Silvertop water pump centre section and pulley can fit the Black Top pump
Interesting. Have you done this? If this is the case I'm'm surprised the likes of IK engineering have 'tooled up' to make there own reverse direction impeller.


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Originally Posted by dhutch
Unless I am mistaken you have a silver-top there, with the aluminium camshaft cover.

Escort and Fiesta silvertops share the same type, correct for rotating the same way as the engine. Mondeo silvertops pump rotates the wrong way but can be swapped for a Escort/Fiesta type. Blacktops (fiesta, with plastic cover, and duratech branded st170 engines) have only one pump type, which needs an idler, or the impeller (and pulley) changing.


Interesting. Have you done this? If this is the case I'm'm surprised the likes of IK engineering have 'tooled up' to make there own reverse direction impeller.


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Thanks, but as this is my engine I happen to know what it is and as I say, it's a Black Top machined to fit a Silver Top water pump and cambelt kit to avoid using an extra pulley.

And with regards to pulley - yes. But it doesn't spin it the right way round still for the reasons you yourself described above, so we machined the block for the Silver Top set up instead. If I was running a lower spec/less expensive engine I would just use it like that anyway as I've heard of people doing this with no issues.
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
Thanks, but as this is my engine I happen to know what it is and as I say, it's a Black Top machined to fit a Silver Top water pump and cambelt kit to avoid using an extra pulley.
Ah right, the block machines out ok for that does it? Nothing something I am planning but fair enough! Explanes how you are able to get the silvertop pump to fit into it anyway.

Whats going on with the rocker cover, are those 'struts' welded to it? Presumably thats also a silvertop cover further adding to the confusion?


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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 05:22 PM
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the struts look like they fix with the cover bolts to me.
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Old Jan 12, 2014 | 10:51 PM
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That's a bolt on turbo hanger, and yes, I'm using a Silver Top cam cover
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by clairendave
the struts look like they fix with the cover bolts to me.
I guess your right, I had forgotten about the two center cover bolts, but it is an ali cover not a plastic blacktop one.

Either way, certainly sounds like XRT_si knows what he is talking about which is a good thing given the size of that blower!


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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 09:36 AM
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The turbo isn't actually that big, it's 'only' a GT30.71 but the manifold makes it sit very prominently. She's up and running now anyway

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