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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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I'm looking at getting a mk1 focus rs soon, but I'm amazed at the amount of mk1's on eBay etc that are either cat d or c write offs repaired, or breaking for spares! I know they only made 4501 of them but there must be hardly any genuine ones left with the amount being broken up or previously damaged, what do people do with these cars?? At this rate there won't be any left in another 10 years! Stop killing them people! That is all.
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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The more that get damaged/ broken the more the remaining few are worth .

However.. its never good to see 'another' being broken.

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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 07:07 PM
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True, but I don't want to be payingassive money for one because they are so rare from people writing them off, ever since they were first released when I was an apprentice I always wanted one, just such a shame to see so many gone already :-(
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The reason there are so many Cat C and D is because of the price of the body panels. Wings at over £600 each, front bumper £100, arch liners £350 each. Soon mounts up.
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The reason there are so many Cat C and D is because of the price of the body panels. Wings at over £600 each, front bumper £100, arch liners £350 each. Soon mounts up.
Wow cant get over the prices.
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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One thing ive always wanted to know about the mk1 focus rs is why they never had a heated front windscreen,or was it an option.
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Just buy one and look after it! I'm hoping for a day without rain to take the frs for a drive.
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One thing ive always wanted to know about the mk1 focus rs is why they never had a heated front windscreen,or was it an option.
Not even an option Glenn - none of them have it.
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Just buy one and look after it! I'm hoping for a day without rain to take the frs for a drive.
I know the feeling mate, can't wait for some decent weather and longer days (well more daylight hours anyway).
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Just buy one and look after it! I'm hoping for a day without rain to take the frs for a drive.
Its only water matey.Just give the car a wash when you have finished using it.
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Not even an option Glenn - none of them have it.
I wonder why.I just think its mad caise the ST170 had a better spec lol.
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Originally Posted by steve_o
True, but I don't want to be payingassive money for one because they are so rare from people writing them off, ever since they were first released when I was an apprentice I always wanted one, just such a shame to see so many gone already :-(
The time is now. Don't be afraid of mileage, mines done 117k now and is still going strong. High miles frs can be had from 5-6k now
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
I wonder why.I just think its mad caise the ST170 had a better spec lol.

ST170 also has a higher insurance group!!!!

As for not using the FRS in the Rain!!!!! PAH... It's awesome in the rain!!!
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i love the focus rs but would never pay the price for one. they are overpriced stupidly and always have been. to many people are willing to pay silly prices so the values stay up. if everyone said no i aint paying that then none of them would sell and soon the bargains would be flowing as they would have to drop. my useless theory anyway and just realises its got nothing to do with the topic so as you were lol
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Originally Posted by Underdog ST170
i love the focus rs but would never pay the price for one. they are overpriced stupidly and always have been. to many people are willing to pay silly prices so the values stay up. if everyone said no i aint paying that then none of them would sell and soon the bargains would be flowing as they would have to drop. my useless theory anyway and just realises its got nothing to do with the topic so as you were lol
Typical st owner....
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Originally Posted by mattcroft
Just buy one and look after it! I'm hoping for a day without rain to take the frs for a drive.
What happens to it if it rains ? Does it melt ?

It's a car.. They can handle rain !!!
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Originally Posted by Underdog ST170
i love the focus rs but would never pay the price for one. they are overpriced stupidly and always have been. to many people are willing to pay silly prices so the values stay up. if everyone said no i aint paying that then none of them would sell and soon the bargains would be flowing as they would have to drop. my useless theory anyway and just realises its got nothing to do with the topic so as you were lol
You can pick them up for 5-6k now, hell of a lot of car for the money, can mod a standard One to run 300bhp for a further 1- 1.5k , I moved onto a frs after owning an st170 for a year, handled really well but was gutless needed a turbo imo, final straw came after being embarased by a diesel astra! Chopped it in the next day for an rs that I had for 5 years.Still miss it and would have another on a heart beat.
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Alot of car for 5to6 grand imo.
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Originally Posted by Underdog ST170
i love the focus rs but would never pay the price for one. they are overpriced stupidly and always have been. to many people are willing to pay silly prices so the values stay up. if everyone said no i aint paying that then none of them would sell and soon the bargains would be flowing as they would have to drop. my useless theory anyway and just realises its got nothing to do with the topic so as you were lol
Have you ever driven one? I've been driving mine for about a month and it was worth every penny.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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I should of got one instead of my 3dr cossie

I might still get one after i have finished the resto on it. Still can't find the real love i thought it would give me

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Originally Posted by Westy
What happens to it if it rains ? Does it melt ?

It's a car.. They can handle rain !!!
Have you not seen most frs that get used as a car It's almost like ford went hunting for the same metal that Alfa Romeo and Datsun used back in the 80's
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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dont get me wrong id love one but i think the prices are inflated. yes i have the poor version in the 170 and this is not because i couldnt afford an rs its because i wont pay for one.

iv always been a ford man and as i teenager i dreamed of owning a saph cos. when i was 22 i was lucky enough to buy one but like the rs focus now i bought it at silly inflated prices for its age and the car was never worth it. i had it 3 yrs and had great fun and spent a lot of money on it. but when i sold it i thought never again will i pay over the top prices.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog ST170
dont get me wrong id love one but i think the prices are inflated. yes i have the poor version in the 170 and this is not because i couldnt afford an rs its because i wont pay for one.

iv always been a ford man and as i teenager i dreamed of owning a saph cos. when i was 22 i was lucky enough to buy one but like the rs focus now i bought it at silly inflated prices for its age and the car was never worth it. i had it 3 yrs and had great fun and spent a lot of money on it. but when i sold it i thought never again will i pay over the top prices.
remember that buying it at inflated prices you can also sell it at inflated prices,i very much doubt that youll find another car in its class that can lose so little in depreciation. your st will prb be worth half as much next year as it is this year but an rs wouldnt lose that much in a year.i bought mine with 65k for 10.5k nearly 3 years ago,now on 82k and would prob get 8-8.5k back,not bad depreciation for 3 years ownership. with the mods i have by breaking it i can get over 10k back.so get nearly all my money back 3-4 year later.,theyve pretty much hit rock bottom and the good ones will just go back up in price.

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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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I wanted a low mileage one for ages got one and did not think much of it then sold it 4 weeks later so I would not bother with one
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You can say there overpriced but that would cover nearly every RS ever made if your going off that.

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One thing ive always wanted to know about the mk1 focus rs is why they never had a heated front windscreen,or was it an option.
The reason they didn't fit one was because they were already way over budget for each car, they lost money on everyone sold.

Mines done 93k and its solid underneath. They can suffer from rot under the wing mirrors and boot trim due to it rubbing though the paint. Also the bottom of the boot is another spot, mine has the latter but its an easy enough fix. There's always going to be ones with rust, it just depends on where its spent most of its life, how its been treated, and how much salt it's been driven in.
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Originally Posted by JamboRS
remember that buying it at inflated prices you can also sell it at inflated prices,i very much doubt that youll find another car in its class that can lose so little in depreciation. your st will prb be worth half as much next year as it is this year but an rs wouldnt lose that much in a year.i bought mine with 65k for 10.5k nearly 3 years ago,now on 82k and would prob get 8-8.5k back,not bad depreciation for 3 years ownership. with the mods i have by breaking it i can get over 10k back.so get nearly all my money back 3-4 year later.,theyve pretty much hit rock bottom and the good ones will just go back up in price.

i got my st170 that im turning into a track car for 550 and for that money its a minter. it will get crushed by a rs tho i know but budget fun doesnt come any better.

my other 170 iv had since new nearly 8 yrs ago and yes they deppreciate bad thats why i aint selling it. but i paid 12900 new off the forecourt which was half the price of a rs.
im an old git now and iv got tight with age and learned a few lessons but i still love fords and i love the looks of a rs and every other rs made but il prob never own another,
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 09:49 PM
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also when i sold my saph they were selling for around 5 to 6 k going back 12 yrs ago. i put mine up fairly priced at 4600 and the phone didnt even ring. in the end i gave it away for 3600 because no one was interested. no one even came to see it so lost loads on it
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Originally Posted by Underdog ST170
dont get me wrong id love one but i think the prices are inflated. yes i have the poor version in the 170 and this is not because i couldnt afford an rs its because i wont pay for one.

iv always been a ford man and as i teenager i dreamed of owning a saph cos. when i was 22 i was lucky enough to buy one but like the rs focus now i bought it at silly inflated prices for its age and the car was never worth it. i had it 3 yrs and had great fun and spent a lot of money on it. but when i sold it i thought never again will i pay over the top prices.
Then buy one mate. Sometimes you have to pay more for the things you want. Going on your logic you would have to buy budget cereals, budget baked beans, budget pies, budget biscuits and everything else that supermarkets do their own budget range of even though they may not be as good as the premium brands (although not in every case lol). I know that comparison may sound a bit daft but virtually everything that we buy as consumers is available cheaper if you don't buy the goods that you actually want.
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by STAFFY OWNER
Then buy one mate. Sometimes you have to pay more for the things you want. Going on your logic you would have to buy budget cereals, budget baked beans, budget pies, budget biscuits and everything else that supermarkets do their own budget range of even though they may not be as good as the premium brands (although not in every case lol). I know that comparison may sound a bit daft but virtually everything that we buy as consumers is available cheaper if you don't buy the goods that you actually want.

sounds like you been following me around tesco lol. just ignore my rants now
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PMSL at FRS being over priced..

What are ST170's then - slow, over priced, thirsty, slow and expensive to insure compared to every other Focus.

I own and FRS and owned an ST170 so am actually qualified to comment.
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PMSL at FRS being over priced..

What are ST170's then - slow, over priced, thirsty, slow and expensive to insure compared to every other Focus.

I own and FRS and owned an ST170 so am actually qualified to comment.

170 are slow but not overpriced.ive got 2 and they are not anymore thirsty than any other 2.0. just to clear it up the focus mk1 rs is a better car than the 170 in every way possible i agree. but you mugs are keeping the high prices up there. i payed 550 for my silver 170 on a 53 plate with 108k.

so what would an equivelent rs cost. same age same milage same condition probably 6 to 8k.

no chance on earth is an rs worth 12 to 16 times the price of a 170. wake up mun
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Originally Posted by Underdog ST170
sounds like you been following me around tesco lol. just ignore my rants now
Keep looking over your shoulder, i'm the one stalking you in the Mk1 Focus RS T-shirt .
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Originally Posted by Underdog ST170
170 are slow but not overpriced.ive got 2 and they are not anymore thirsty than any other 2.0. just to clear it up the focus mk1 rs is a better car than the 170 in every way possible i agree. but you mugs are keeping the high prices up there. i payed 550 for my silver 170 on a 53 plate with 108k.

so what would an equivelent rs cost. same age same milage same condition probably 6 to 8k.

no chance on earth is an rs worth 12 to 16 times the price of a 170. wake up mun
you comparing your st which you paid buttons for for a low mileage mint rs.
the lowest price st i can find on PH is £1395 with 140k miles,a frs with 140k miles would be a 5k car so hardly 12-16 times the price. more like 3-4 times the price? is it worth 3-4 times as much,imo yes it is,theres also a 30k miles st on PH for £2300,for a 30k miles rs your talking 9-10K,again not 12-16 times the price. like all RS models it demands more,look at the mk2,circa 18k for a 2009,you can pick a 2009 st for for less than 10k.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
I wonder why.I just think its mad caise the ST170 had a better spec lol.
They don't need one the screens clear really quick with out one
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Nice cars but a little to much money imo . Bugs me they dont even come with a temp gauge .
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Originally Posted by Harris.
Nice cars but a little to much money imo . Bugs me they dont even come with a temp gauge .
Scangauge, VI screen or equivalent do the trick!
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Originally Posted by JamboRS
you comparing your st which you paid buttons for for a low mileage mint rs.
the lowest price st i can find on PH is £1395 with 140k miles,a frs with 140k miles would be a 5k car so hardly 12-16 times the price. more like 3-4 times the price? is it worth 3-4 times as much,imo yes it is,theres also a 30k miles st on PH for £2300,for a 30k miles rs your talking 9-10K,again not 12-16 times the price. like all RS models it demands more,look at the mk2,circa 18k for a 2009,you can pick a 2009 st for for less than 10k.

coming back on here this morning and i expected a war to have happened over my comments last night lol. looks like the RS boys have let me off lightly. phew.

jambo i know what your saying and i was just using an extreme example with my car.

at the end of the day it just comes down to oppinions and were all different and as long as were happy with our own choices then thats all that matters. im gona try and not go on a scrooge rant again so please just gloss over my comments or ignore em

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i have owned 7 now.. and everyone has been a cat d or c. both i own at the moment are too. my own car ( have 6/7 years) cost me £8k smashed up. dare not think what that owes me now

but that said, dont be put off by a cat d or c.. your'll get a bargain!!
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