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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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Hi guys as above i would like more power, not massive amounts 220bhp would be great-for now
I dont want to go full zetec turbo yet, TBH i think my spec should be able to get more power then it currently is (186bhp 196lbft @15psi)

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-1.8ZVH, standard bottom end, decompression plate
-Kent cvh35 cam, solid lifters and valve springs (could the valve springs/lifters be a issue?)
-Beige injectors
-stage two t3, 55trim 2wd cossie with .36 rsturbo ex housing, 360degree bearings
-stage 2 60mm FMIC
-Motorsport developments chip
-Magnex exhaust system
-Green Air filter
-Sytec fuel pump
-15psi
-LSD stage 1 box, vibratechnics etc

Surely that spec should piss 200bhp?
Any ideas without messing about with the bottom end would be much appreciated.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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More boost, get some fueling gear strapped to it so you can monitor AFR's and turn the boost up. Danster76 off here was running 22psi on fiesta turbo management and beiges and that was a touch over 200bhp, his injectors where max'd out then so he went Link management and 55's. It feels very fast!!

Edited to say his spec was pretty much identicle to yours but still running cvh bottom end.

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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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I would fit a .48 cossie exhaust housing and get remap/new chip to run around 18-20psi. I think that would see around 220bhp and with the cossie ex housing it would hold the power further up the rev range. Don't know if your injectors would be able to supply the juice though.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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I ran with 210bhp with a simular spec, though different chip and fueling setup.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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2 bar of boost... A good breather and your away... All I ever ran.

Edit I also ran a .48 exhaust housing
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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I don't think you could safely map enough boost to run 220bhp without pushing your injectors to oblivion. Your setup is perfect to run mid 200s so injector change and more boost and you should piss 220bhp should be seeing more like 230-240.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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Did the integra beat you?
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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Did the integra beat you?
Hasnt happened yet, hes on about selling it and moving to Oz!
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pani_k
I don't think you could safely map enough boost to run 220bhp without pushing your injectors to oblivion. Your setup is perfect to run mid 200s so injector change and more boost and you should piss 220bhp should be seeing more like 230-240.
so it would be cossie injectors?, and as for more boost wouldnt that need different pistons, rods etc?
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_matt
2 bar of boost... A good breather and your away... All I ever ran.

Edit I also ran a .48 exhaust housing
Yes my oil breather seems to be struggling with the power im on now, so i will order one of those, for 2 bar i will need a uprated bottom end though and with my wedding coming up and the car finally working right i cant justify it at the moment just gone for a 4" outward rolled full scorpion exhaust system though as it will help the air flow much better then my restrictive magnex.

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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam.
Hasnt happened yet, hes on about selling it and moving to Oz!

Fair enuff, we all want more power
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is that figure at the wheels?

a stage 3 turbo and injectors should see you piss 220hp at the same boost. it sounds like it has all the right bits.
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Originally Posted by Adam.
Yes my oil breather seems to be struggling with the power im on now, so i will order one of those, for 2 bar i will need a uprated bottom end though and with my wedding coming up and the car finally working right i cant justify it at the moment just gone for a 4" outward rolled full scorpion exhaust system though as it will help the air flow much better then my restrictive magnex.

Ran 2 bar fine on both my escorts standard bottom ends mate.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_matt
Ran 2 bar fine on both my escorts standard bottom ends mate.
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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I don't think a zvh bottom end will take 2 bar.

A standard cvh one possibly would, my old one ran 2 bar on standard everything, I couldn't beleive it but it did. Went like a train too. The standard cooler was oval
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buy a yb engined machine!
i know it sounds like a cock of a answer, but you gotta call it a day one day
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Injectors, management and map to suit with a decent amount of boost.
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
Injectors, management and map to suit with a decent amount of boost.
how do you gain power by fitting new management?
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AJC
I don't think a zvh bottom end will take 2 bar.

A standard cvh one possibly would, my old one ran 2 bar on standard everything, I couldn't beleive it but it did. Went like a train too. The standard cooler was oval


Same here pal... All I had was bailey breather set up... Stage 3 T3.48 off a 4x4 cos... Brand new standard cam and a front mount cooler ran 2bar and went like fuck lol.....God I miss this car.. Was a epic time..!







And the engine that run 2bar....

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matt, how long did it last? did the fuel system cope and what mods were made to the managagent/fuelling setup. must have been savage when the turbo woke up!
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It lasted all the 18montjs I had it... It was used and thrashed daily... Not 100% sure stu set it me all up to slaughter my mates and various other subarus... And it fucked them clean over.....
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
how do you gain power by fitting new management?
Stupid reply Gareth, please don't become another pedantic PF clown, i said, injectors, management and mapped to suit with a decent amount of boost, very few people can map the frst's properly, hence rather than mess around with it, put an aftermarket management system on along with some decent injectors then get mapped with some more boost, it should then be able to make much better power, if he wants more power at a later date then he can look at different turbo (4x4 saff one on a .48 would be good) forged internals etc.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
Stupid reply Gareth, please don't become another pedantic PF clown, i said, injectors, management and mapped to suit with a decent amount of boost, very few people can map the frst's properly, hence rather than mess around with it, put an aftermarket management system on along with some decent injectors then get mapped with some more boost, it should then be able to make much better power, if he wants more power at a later date then he can look at different turbo (4x4 saff one on a .48 would be good) forged internals etc.
sorry i didnt want to sound padantic, but as hes asking this type of question i dont think hes ever going to map the car his self, so hes going to take it to a tuner!
people do fall into the misconception that new ecus give you more power and i just wanted to show that they dont before he goes out spanking his hard earned!
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 12:52 PM
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Not so sure about zvh's, but i had a rebuilt standard cvh engine on omex management with a stg3 t3, ported head/newman cam and solid lifters mapped at 1.5bar which made around the 250bhp mark and lasted a good 2 years of abuse, trackdays and pod etc.
Car went so well for what it was....more boost needed for yours, and imo the head on mine made a big difference, revved so much better and pulled hard to the limiter
As for management, the aftermarket route just opens up a few more options as to where you can take the car to be properly mapped as you'll definately see gains over fitting a generic chip.
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
sorry i didnt want to sound padantic, but as hes asking this type of question i dont think hes ever going to map the car his self, so hes going to take it to a tuner!
people do fall into the misconception that new ecus give you more power and i just wanted to show that they dont before he goes out spanking his hard earned!
No worried Gareth, that why I said Managment and map to suit, I don't advise people to map themselves, it often ends in tears
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I have an CVH turbo engine and gearbox with the below specs for sale you might interested:

CVH Turbo with:

Lightened and balanced crank.
ACL racing bearings crank and rods.
Custom made main bolds from aircraft L19 ALLOY (280,000 KSI), the std ARP rates at 180,000 ksi...
PEC forged steel 4340 con rods.
Wiseco forged 7.5:1 piston kit.
Cosmetic triple metallic layer head gasket.
Custom made head bold from aircraft L19 alloy (280,000 ksi).
Stage 4 head fully ported in gas flowed machine with big steel valves intake and exhaust.
Completely new valve train everything new.
Double valve springs.
Mechanical lifters.
Piper 285T2 cam.
Adjustable cam gear Piper.
Rsi aluminum head cover.
Custom made aluminum intake with all the necessary parts (idle valve etc...).
80mm throttle bodies anodized with the std throttle position sensor installed.
Engine block almost new with 4.500 miles and 0 wear.
New std but lightened flywheel.
Metallic "with 6" pad clutch with new bearing.
Sachs heavy duth pressure plate.
Crank-pulley-flywheel-clutch have been balanced together.
RS2000 MT75 gear box with low mileage opened-examined and 100% perfect working order (this is used part).
Quaife ABT differential.
Rs2000 axles no worn 100% perfect working order (this is used part).
RS2000 Gearbox mount and gearbox shifter repaired we new parts 100% perfect working order (this are used parts).
New gaskets of course.
Motorsport oil pump.
New water pump.
Belt with tensioners.
Every metal (engine-turbo-manifold-gearbox etC....) has been Cryogenic treatment, this a process known to racing
teams. This treatment eliminates all the defects of the metals especially the molten metals.

EVERYTHING IS NEW-THE ENGINE NEVER TURNED ON 0 MILE 0 HOURS (O SECONDS...)
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Bringing back the dead here. Lol
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 09:54 PM
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It's alive!!!!!
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