thinking about this, that i have found on ebay. after my coil got wet and shit its self. think this is the ansure. my nissan had it and never missed a beat.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260852319414&fromMakeT rack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlinken

 

looks good!

 

worth a bid then! must be good as its standard on most cars now lol and standard on jap 4 years

 

i have audi coilpack conversion on mine.. never ever let me down

 

good shout mo

 

any 1 used this on a cosworth? im gwssing u wont need wasted spark if u go down this root? help people, thanks

 

Not sure but I don't think you can't run sequential spark firing off a Weber L series ECU.
If you've got an aftermarket ECU like an Omex or Autoronic you'll be fine.
You might beable to wire them up as wasted spark so you could use the board MSD do.
Rich

 

You need aftermarket ecu to run that set up.

I can't understand why people have so many problems with the std setup :/ the wasted spark kit is totally unnecessary and adds more problems than it supposedly fixes and makes problem solving difficult as it will always be your fault

Then there is the rev counter issues.

 

I run similar coils on my 500, mine are off a Civic type R and need a 5v signal to fire them.

 

+1, but there can be no question of it's superior ability to do the job!

I believe COP is mainly beneficial for high revving engines, perhaps explains why Hondas have it, plus they have used it for years, all Civic EP3'S have it!



Martin

 

I think Simon developed a kit to run coil on plug on L8 ages ago.

Agree with what you've said though, it's always your fault!

 

If you've got an ecu that runs them fair play but IMO doubling up ignition amps is not the way - and I've heard a car start running the wasted spark kit and it took longer to start and it fired on the 2nd attempt that's after he had loads of problems with fitment.

My car runs 071s with .7mm gap which is the same as I have seen recommended to run on the ws kit and mine doesn't misfire at all running 450bhp

I know about the kit hot stuff no it's YOUR fault!!! lol

A run of the mill stg3 t34 cossie doesnt need wasted spark it won't make it any faster and the standard ignition system is more than up to the job

 

No Dan, it's your fault you obviously have similar experiences as me

 

what ecu are you running martin?

 

OMEX 710 I believe.
Rich

 

Pmsl I see it on here all the time and I "experienced" it 9 years ago it deviated slightly in the middle but it has now gone full circle back to the old days

And even my mrs "experienced" it so it's not me

 

ive no idea what your talking about but im intrigued haha!

 

ow so i cant use this on my l8 ecu?

 

I'm glad to know overall, it's not changed much in that time

I also have seen the starting issue, but naturally - you can guess who's fault that was

 

On a standard L8 absolutly no chance, if you've got a wasted spark board fitted it might be possible to wire them up to fire in pairs.
Might be worth speaking to Stu @ MSD
Rich

 

probelem with batch firing the coils in in the dwell time ,

aparently someoen was working on a setup for l8 but never heard anthing ,


im planning to run it on mine , with omex ,


if will gets me a price on a ecu lol

 

Doesn't a Weber ECU on wasted spark send an earth to fire the coil pack???

 

No idea, is possible to use coil on plug using a wasted spark board?
Rich

 

intresing this is turning out to be, shame stu is on his holls so cant put us right.

 

Simon also knows as he developed it all I believe

 

I'm sure its been done before on a YB with wasted spark but obviously the coils would be working twice as hard, I did this on a VAG engine and it worked fine but I did get through a couple of coils and in the end reverted back to a Ford coil pack which doesn't give any problems. I'd only go plug top coils if you can fire them sequentially.

 

Might leave it alone then, just after seeing the coil on plug on your 500 it looks so much tidier without HT leads.
Rich

 

wasted spark could run COP, but no real gains to be had.
i have plans for COP on my ZT due to MS being ready for them as sequential ignition.
just cuts out HT lead failure really, and perhaps a cleaner spark.

 

I'm pretty sure that the coils I have put put out much higher KV than the Ford coil pack and getting rid of the leads has to be the way forward so I'd say there are real gains! Plus plug top coils give out less electrical noise..

 

https://passionford.com/forum/genera...l-on-plug.html

I asked this oncw

 

I am sure Simon was developing this as mentioned, however seen as he got banned from here we will never know (On this site at least)!

Martin