Can you get a genuine 300bhp from a 1.6cvh
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Can you get a genuine 300bhp from a 1.6cvh
I was arguing with a mate of mine who said you cant get a genuine 300bhp from a 1.6cvh i have in my erst s2. He said you have to buy a long block or something from america in order to do it..But i dissagree.
Whats the truth?
Whats the truth?
Rubbish mate, you can get over 350bhp from a 1.6 CVH with the correct turbo, headwork, pistons, rods, manifolds and management etc.. 
Last edited by Karlos G; May 23, 2011 at 04:35 PM.
Yes very deep pockets!!
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Argument solved!!!
Also whilst im here, the cheapest -31 actuator ive found is £68, im definatley on a tight budget so do they get cheaper than that anywhere? Haha.
Thanks, Joe
Also whilst im here, the cheapest -31 actuator ive found is £68, im definatley on a tight budget so do they get cheaper than that anywhere? Haha.
Thanks, Joe
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It can absolutely be done but it's very costly. In fact I'm sure I've heard whispers of a well known Ford tuner pushing towards the 500 mark (which is fucking nuts in my mind). And don't buy cheap or you'll buy price.
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Of course 300bhp is possible,over 360bhp has been obtained with 1.6cvh with lots of money and correct mods.500bhp? Id like to see the outcome..without nos..
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its possible! where theres money anything could be possible lol.. i seen a cvh engine do 304bhp .3 years back and its still going . only had a headgasket done thats it and servicing it.running a quaiiffe box and no nitrous
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seems a very big claim!
but then, his are the fastest ones, aint they! lol
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300bhp is straight forward, normally consists of steel rods and forged pistons with std crank, a decent ported head, solid lifter cam, and T34 size turbo.
The problem comes around 360bhp, and is where 99% of tuners come into MAJOR problems as essentially thats the reliable max on a cvh engine. However it is possible to go much further in the power stakes, but at a pretty extreme price! Itd also worth pointing out that it took us 15 years of modifiying these engines to develop a package that works, so it's simply not something you can stumble on by buying random parts off t'interweb and fleabay!
Our top spec CVH engines (i.e. beyond 400bhp) cost from 15K.
The problem comes around 360bhp, and is where 99% of tuners come into MAJOR problems as essentially thats the reliable max on a cvh engine. However it is possible to go much further in the power stakes, but at a pretty extreme price! Itd also worth pointing out that it took us 15 years of modifiying these engines to develop a package that works, so it's simply not something you can stumble on by buying random parts off t'interweb and fleabay!
Our top spec CVH engines (i.e. beyond 400bhp) cost from 15K.
Last edited by Karl; May 27, 2011 at 12:42 AM.
yes you can but you need about 8/10k .... all steel bottom end, big valve ported head, custom engine management bit manifold with something like a gt28 or gt30, big inlet, and all the little bits to go with.
along with gearbox,brakes,suspension, shell making sure thats upto scratch....
best of going for 250bhp as it will be a 3rd of that.......
stage3 big valve , cam, management, bottom end freshen up, clutch and rad and intercooler and a nice reather kit should get you there....
and 1600cvhs have seen 350/360bhp but cost the earth to build.....
unless your karl and the guys above they are the best with them realy and could do the set up ith thier eyes closed
along with gearbox,brakes,suspension, shell making sure thats upto scratch....
best of going for 250bhp as it will be a 3rd of that.......
stage3 big valve , cam, management, bottom end freshen up, clutch and rad and intercooler and a nice reather kit should get you there....
and 1600cvhs have seen 350/360bhp but cost the earth to build.....
unless your karl and the guys above they are the best with them realy and could do the set up ith thier eyes closed
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300bhp is straight forward, normally consists of steel rods and forged pistons with std crank, a decent ported head, solid lifter cam, and T34 size turbo.
The problem comes around 360bhp, and is where 99% of tuners come into MAJOR problems as essentially thats the reliable max on a cvh engine. However it is possible to go much further in the power stakes, but at a pretty extreme price! Itd also worth pointing out that it took us 15 years of modifiying these engines to develop a package that works, so it's simply not something you can stumble on by buying random parts off t'interweb and fleabay!
Our top spec CVH engines (i.e. beyond 400bhp) cost from 15K.
The problem comes around 360bhp, and is where 99% of tuners come into MAJOR problems as essentially thats the reliable max on a cvh engine. However it is possible to go much further in the power stakes, but at a pretty extreme price! Itd also worth pointing out that it took us 15 years of modifiying these engines to develop a package that works, so it's simply not something you can stumble on by buying random parts off t'interweb and fleabay!
Our top spec CVH engines (i.e. beyond 400bhp) cost from 15K.
always been intrigued as to what goes into one of the crazy power 1600s. lol
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What are they revving to, when making 400+?
I guess only one or two engines have ever been one, so possibly not many could answer that! Intrigued to find out more!
Very big achievement IMO!
I guess only one or two engines have ever been one, so possibly not many could answer that! Intrigued to find out more!
Very big achievement IMO!
My 250 engine was standard comp ratio, STD new mahles on STD rods
Nick waples ported head and a cam STD manifolds (efi in) with 55trim t3.48 22psi
252bhp @ 6000rpm
My new one has a slightly reworked head, our own inlet new cam and more boost
Oh obv steel rods and forged pistons
26psi made 303bhp @ 6000rpm and 285 iirc at 6500rpm
It flies in my car really happy with it the old engine was good too though
Nick waples ported head and a cam STD manifolds (efi in) with 55trim t3.48 22psi
252bhp @ 6000rpm
My new one has a slightly reworked head, our own inlet new cam and more boost
Oh obv steel rods and forged pistons
26psi made 303bhp @ 6000rpm and 285 iirc at 6500rpm
It flies in my car really happy with it
the old engine was good too though
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300bhp is straight forward, normally consists of steel rods and forged pistons with std crank, a decent ported head, solid lifter cam, and T34 size turbo.
The problem comes around 360bhp, and is where 99% of tuners come into MAJOR problems as essentially thats the reliable max on a cvh engine. However it is possible to go much further in the power stakes, but at a pretty extreme price! Itd also worth pointing out that it took us 15 years of modifiying these engines to develop a package that works, so it's simply not something you can stumble on by buying random parts off t'interweb and fleabay!
Our top spec CVH engines (i.e. beyond 400bhp) cost from 15K.
The problem comes around 360bhp, and is where 99% of tuners come into MAJOR problems as essentially thats the reliable max on a cvh engine. However it is possible to go much further in the power stakes, but at a pretty extreme price! Itd also worth pointing out that it took us 15 years of modifiying these engines to develop a package that works, so it's simply not something you can stumble on by buying random parts off t'interweb and fleabay!
Our top spec CVH engines (i.e. beyond 400bhp) cost from 15K.
what does the £15k buy is it something like this
block with niksal liners £1000
forge pistons £700
h beam rods £500
custom crank £1000
race bearings £300
arp bolts throughout £400
cosmetic gaskets throughout £300
custom big valve head £1500
something like a jenvey plenum £1500
70mm throttle body £300
custom tubular exhaust manifold £1000
external wastegate £300
turbo (gt35 or similar) £1200
injectors x8 £500
dry sump system and fittings £2000
fpr £200
standalone management £700
wiring harness £500
engine dyno £1000
total £14900
thats what i would expect and if any of the above was missing off the list i wouldnt spend a penny because i think this is whats needed to build a reliable big bhp engine wether it be cvh , zetec etc
can i ask is it 40+ psi you run on your big spec engines
it will be good to see thou so carry on and whens the d day for it to run?
cheers paul
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fare play for the work that youve done with these engines and ive seen them produce the power etc and do some good top speeds etc , but to get that sort of power just makes the engine unreliable and didnt ollies block split in half because of the 40psi you were running to get the 400 bhp ? . i agree that you simply cant buy bits here and there but if you cant make ollies engine reliable what chance have you got with a customers engine? and £15k is alot of money for a engine.
what does the £15k buy is it something like this
block with niksal liners £1000
forge pistons £700
h beam rods £500
custom crank £1000
race bearings £300
arp bolts throughout £400
cosmetic gaskets throughout £300
custom big valve head £1500
something like a jenvey plenum £1500
70mm throttle body £300
custom tubular exhaust manifold £1000
external wastegate £300
turbo (gt35 or similar) £1200
injectors x8 £500
dry sump system and fittings £2000
fpr £200
standalone management £700
wiring harness £500
engine dyno £1000
total £14900
thats what i would expect and if any of the above was missing off the list i wouldnt spend a penny because i think this is whats needed to build a reliable big bhp engine wether it be cvh , zetec etc
can i ask is it 40+ psi you run on your big spec engines
it will be good to see thou so carry on and whens the d day for it to run?
cheers paul
what does the £15k buy is it something like this
block with niksal liners £1000
forge pistons £700
h beam rods £500
custom crank £1000
race bearings £300
arp bolts throughout £400
cosmetic gaskets throughout £300
custom big valve head £1500
something like a jenvey plenum £1500
70mm throttle body £300
custom tubular exhaust manifold £1000
external wastegate £300
turbo (gt35 or similar) £1200
injectors x8 £500
dry sump system and fittings £2000
fpr £200
standalone management £700
wiring harness £500
engine dyno £1000
total £14900
thats what i would expect and if any of the above was missing off the list i wouldnt spend a penny because i think this is whats needed to build a reliable big bhp engine wether it be cvh , zetec etc
can i ask is it 40+ psi you run on your big spec engines
it will be good to see thou so carry on and whens the d day for it to run?
cheers paul