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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 12:29 AM
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hey all, my mate has a full 2inch stainless powerflow 'zaust on his mark1 clio, since the car is sat in his garage doing nothing, he says he will sell it me, but the question is, will it fit onto a fiesta mk5? or would we be cutting and chopping? or is it a waste of time? cheers guys and girls kal
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 12:34 AM
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Waste of time.
Exhaust systems specifically made for cars are a pain to fit sometimes. Let alone taking an exhaust from two different cars.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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Ok, cheers mate
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 12:51 AM
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Wasta of time and money. Powerflow are shit anyway!
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by zetec-Sam
Wasta of time and money. Powerflow are shit anyway!
Powerflow are a franchise, so it's down to the individual place. Bit like saying McDonalds are shit because some bird was scratching her arse while making your BigMac.
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Powerflow are a franchise, so it's down to the individual place. Bit like saying McDonalds are shit because some bird was scratching her arse while making your BigMac.
I agree with zetec sam. Powerflow exhausts are built to user's specifics based on sound using universal silencers. Flow or back pressure are not taken into account with their systems.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Chopshop85
I agree with zetec sam. Powerflow exhausts are built to user's specifics based on sound using universal silencers. Flow or back pressure are not taken into account with their systems.
Another sweeping statement

What part of
Powerflow are a franchise, so it's down to the individual place.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveZS
Another sweeping statement

What part of did you not see
Yes they are a franchise and so each dealer will have varying levels of quality, but and there is no getting away from this the boxes they use (supplied by powerflow from south Africa afaik) are shocking I've had to replace more havers than I can remember but I every powerflow system I have seen has had rattling baffles.
That's all before going into the flow/back pressure characteristics of the silencers.
Plus the face that the stainless they use is a low quality and tend to corrode within 12 months.

Can't stand powerflow as you can tell, especially as just in my area I can think of 2 quality custom exhaust suppliers within 10-15 miles of the powerflow dealer.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveZS
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What part of did you not see
yes, down to the individual place that uses the same exhaust silencers as every other one in the franchise!
You dont go there and buy an exhaust and they use the cars original flow design and baffles and spend a good ammount of time flow testing with correct lengths and diameters?! They just slap on enough silencers to make the car sound barry and keep it under the legal limit.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chopshop85
yes, down to the individual place that uses the same exhaust silencers as every other one in the franchise!
You dont go there and buy an exhaust and they use the cars original flow design and baffles and spend a good ammount of time flow testing with correct lengths and diameters?! They just slap on enough silencers to make the car sound barry and keep it under the legal limit.
i worked for 3 years as a longlife exhaust fabricator, longlife was started by the guy who brought powerflow to this country from africa and he is the guy who trained me he left powerflow behind because of the cheap shit quality materials that they use and i can 100% vouch that no consideration was taken for flow or backpressure, longlife were slightly better as we used better materials and flow and backpressure was at least thought about but still in my opinion you cant beat the likes of magnex, mongoose etc... as they spend months if not years developing and testing thier products so that they perform 100%
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 08:47 PM
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How much am I looking at if I want straight through stainless?
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i worked for 3 years as a longlife exhaust fabricator, longlife was started by the guy who brought powerflow to this country from africa and he is the guy who trained me he left powerflow behind because of the cheap shit quality materials that they use and i can 100% vouch that no consideration was taken for flow or backpressure, longlife were slightly better as we used better materials and flow and backpressure was at least thought about but still in my opinion you cant beat the likes of magnex, mongoose etc... as they spend months if not years developing and testing thier products so that they perform 100%
Exactly that. Companies like mongoose and magnex etc like you say, spend time developing the exhausts for the best results. Powerflow just pull the old exhaust off, match it up shapewise with cheap shitty steel and throw on a few silencers.
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chopshop85
Exactly that. Companies like mongoose and magnex etc like you say, spend time developing the exhausts for the best results. Powerflow just pull the old exhaust off, match it up shapewise with cheap shitty steel and throw on a few silencers.

some of the powerflow ones ive seen didnt even match up shapewise
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Taggerskillz
How much am I looking at if I want straight through stainless?
a minimum of £300 for anything decent from magnex, mongoose, scorpion etc....
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveZS
Powerflow are a franchise, so it's down to the individual place. Bit like saying McDonalds are shit because some bird was scratching her arse while making your BigMac.
But mcdonalds are shit, due to using poor quality and fatty foods, in all their stores. Just like powerflow are shit, as they all use crap materials. I've seen numerous powerflow exhausts, from many different dealers, and every exhaust was corroding, had visibly shit flow, and utterly appauling welding.
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:10 AM
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Sorry PowerFlow are total junk. Dealt with their work on a few occasions and the build, fit, finish and materials leave a lot to be desired. You'd do better making a system up yourself from drinking straws.
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by botters
i worked for 3 years as a longlife exhaust fabricator, longlife was started by the guy who brought powerflow to this country from africa and he is the guy who trained me he left powerflow behind because of the cheap shit quality materials that they use and i can 100% vouch that no consideration was taken for flow or backpressure, longlife were slightly better as we used better materials and flow and backpressure was at least thought about but still in my opinion you cant beat the likes of magnex, mongoose etc... as they spend months if not years developing and testing thier products so that they perform 100%
Hi all. Hope it's appropriate for me to post here given my association with one of the companies mentioned.

I'm really pleased to see some positive comments about Longlife - we do try to be the best that we can be and use the right materials. Not sure where the above poster is but he's correct that we do try and consider gas flow and all of the other elements that go into a quality system.

I'm sorry that Powerflow (with whom I have no association what-so-ever) have been badly knocked. Obviously great for us but to be fair to them, they have improved their game in terms of their materials in recent years. The original materials they used were fairly poor though.

Magnex, Mongoose etc are all OK at what they do and their products will do a fair job. The perception of how much they have done in terms of development though is often over estimated and I wuld say our product stacks up very well over the competition. As a (totally independant) example, have a look at the Redline magazine test on an Impreza http://www.redlinemag.com/page/redli...dline_longlife in which we came out well.

Anyway, that's all from me, hope it's of help.

Kind Regards

Jason
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