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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 06:31 PM
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Which parts would be advised NOT to solid mount or poly bush on a cosworth? I have a stripped out 2wd sapphire with an awful rattle from the transmission when off throttle between 3k and 2k revs, it sounds like the prop is smashing my gearbox to bits but it's instantly gone when on throttle. So basically where would you draw the line with poly bush, what should be left rubber and what's best solid mounted?
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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hmm! be good to know this..
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Someone once said to me don't polybushe the rear trail arms, heard a lot of people say that a 6 degree rear beam is the ultimate mod with regards to making the car handle 100 times better

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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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As above that is bang on
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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6 degree beam is amazing,love mine.
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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Stripped out saff thats a bit noisy.....whats the car used for?

If its a track car i'd put up with it. If its a road/daly driver go back to OE mounts.
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
As above that is bang on
Nice 1 Jim

Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
6 degree beam is amazing,love mine.
I know you've got one Kev you barsteward one is on my never ending list of cossie mods


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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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Solid mount everything except the rear diff hanger, and the gearbox mount. 6 degree beam is vital.
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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were can i get the mounts for engine? so i can chassis mount it

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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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i hope by solid mount you mean polybush and not an actual solid non bushed mount or that will be one shakey sierra that will do nowt but pop spotwelds one by one till the car falls apart around you lol!
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Roosie
were can i get the mounts for engine? so i can solid mount it
Vibra technics are good unless you want to chassis mount them like the group a cars
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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sorry i meant chassis mount
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:30 PM
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No, rear beam needs solid mounts on the main bolts, stops the car wandering around the rear beam. Rear arms are rose jointed anyway if you have a six degree beam. Front TCA's are rose jointed, and compression struts take the place of the front ARB for a huge improvement in turn in & braking stability.

Engine mounts need to be rubberised items, Collins ones are very good, made by Lord who make aerospace spec stuff as used on the aircraft I work on. Rear diff hanger needs to be poly, from MSD/Rainbird/GGR- great improvemnt.

Coilovers will mount direct to the turrets, so removes the top mount bush as well...

This is how my Escort is set up, it is on stiff gravel 909 Billies, and is like a go-kart, no slack in the car anywhere at all, yet is compliant and not buzzy/harsh... Well worth the small increase in road noise, which is minimal compared to the straight cut box anyway!

But the rear beam & solid mounts transform any tired old cossie.
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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Solid floor mounts are good, not essential we use power flex in even the big power cars and they are very good

Roosie I think ATM do them
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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check the exhaust system!!

mine sounded like something was VERY fucked between 2-3k rpm. turned out it was the screamer pipe vibrating!

i have collins solid engine mounts
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ATM no thanks

anyone else?
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Well it's a stripped 12point caged seam welded shell, steel panels still.

Poly ARB front and rear
Rose jointed TCAs
Solid steering rack bushes
STD rubber steering joint and suspo top mounts

GpA chassis engine mounts
Vibratechnics gearbox mount
Poly exhaust mounts

Solid outer beam mounts
Poly inner and outer trailing arm bushes
Solid diff mount with rubber isolation on 9" studs
Poly mount rear AVOs

The diff mount needs changing as its far too harsh as do the front strut tops as they are failing. Poly or Rose joint front shock tops?

Oh and the car is used as my everyday commuter, has done drift days and is used hard every week and has done 1600 hard miles. It's HARSH!!!
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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deffo check the exhast mate, sounds exactly like mine only making the noise at 2-3k rpm. mine done it on acceleration and deceleration tho. but the pipe was swinging in the wind.

just check that the exhaust clamps are tight and its not hitting anywhere.

thats the first place i would start.
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Originally Posted by charlie luciano
Nice 1 Jim



I know you've got one Kev you barsteward one is on my never ending list of cossie mods


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Get one geez you will not be disappointed.
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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Get one geez you will not be disappointed.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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Get some 3 door front hubs on there, just using a poly diff mount makes a world of difference on it's own.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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take them crappy polly bushes out of your rear arms.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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Solid minting the steering rack is a good way to go and now I see that they are doing poly versions of the steering coupling too, but on such an important bit of the car I'm not sure I'd entrust it to a poly item and would much rather get an actual metal uj in there somehow
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
deffo check the exhast mate, sounds exactly like mine only making the noise at 2-3k rpm. mine done it on acceleration and deceleration tho. but the pipe was swinging in the wind.

just check that the exhaust clamps are tight and its not hitting anywhere.

thats the first place i would start.
mine is the same as yours mate the screamer has been routed out throught the wing where the airfilter would normaly go and its rattling on the bodywork

so im getting it re-routed down with the exhaust
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