can i put a mondeo zetec engine in my sapphire
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I don't see why not buddy!
There's loads of people done this conversion on mk1/2 escorts, capri's etc so theres kits out there for spinning the engine around to make it rwd
Not 100% sure if you can buy mounts but fabing a set up shouldn't be too much of a problem
Off the top of my head you'll need a new water rail (theres a company makes them, can't remember who
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and I'm sure a type 9 or mt75 will bolt streight up (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong people)
There's loads of people done this conversion on mk1/2 escorts, capri's etc so theres kits out there for spinning the engine around to make it rwd
Not 100% sure if you can buy mounts but fabing a set up shouldn't be too much of a problem
Off the top of my head you'll need a new water rail (theres a company makes them, can't remember who
and I'm sure a type 9 or mt75 will bolt streight up (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong people)
try ni-fords.co.uk theres 2 in ni
one has throttle bodies and is only 200bhp, with management and the other is 175bhp.
not worth the money for all the power your only going to have
both are using type 9 boxs
one has throttle bodies and is only 200bhp, with management and the other is 175bhp.
not worth the money for all the power your only going to have
both are using type 9 boxs
theres sooo much tuning kit out for the zetec its very easy to build a turbo engine and its different to going the usual done to death cossy conversions.
its only that power because he's chosen to go the n/a route. its definately more cost effective pound per bhp to go turbo route but thats gonna cost more than 2k to start with anyway.
zetecs are damn good engines and very tunable. fudgey on here has done a turbo zetec sierra and its running about 450bhp and similar level of torque iirc and i think theres more to come yet so to say its not a worth while conversion is rubbish imho.
if say going from a 1.6 pinto its probably cheaper to go zetec turbo than cossy due to cossy parts being more expensive. not to mention its more upto date engine and is ultimately going to be far more reliable than a cosworth. for instance the zetec uses a coil pack, the cozzy uses a distributor and converting to coil pack poses problems to overcome. you wont get those problems on a zetec engine!
zetecs are damn good engines and very tunable. fudgey on here has done a turbo zetec sierra and its running about 450bhp and similar level of torque iirc and i think theres more to come yet so to say its not a worth while conversion is rubbish imho.
if say going from a 1.6 pinto its probably cheaper to go zetec turbo than cossy due to cossy parts being more expensive. not to mention its more upto date engine and is ultimately going to be far more reliable than a cosworth. for instance the zetec uses a coil pack, the cozzy uses a distributor and converting to coil pack poses problems to overcome. you wont get those problems on a zetec engine!
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its only that power because he's chosen to go the n/a route. its definately more cost effective pound per bhp to go turbo route but thats gonna cost more than 2k to start with anyway.
zetecs are damn good engines and very tunable. fudgey on here has done a turbo zetec sierra and its running about 450bhp and similar level of torque iirc and i think theres more to come yet so to say its not a worth while conversion is rubbish imho.
if say going from a 1.6 pinto its probably cheaper to go zetec turbo than cossy due to cossy parts being more expensive. not to mention its more upto date engine and is ultimately going to be far more reliable than a cosworth. for instance the zetec uses a coil pack, the cozzy uses a distributor and converting to coil pack poses problems to overcome. you wont get those problems on a zetec engine!
zetecs are damn good engines and very tunable. fudgey on here has done a turbo zetec sierra and its running about 450bhp and similar level of torque iirc and i think theres more to come yet so to say its not a worth while conversion is rubbish imho.
if say going from a 1.6 pinto its probably cheaper to go zetec turbo than cossy due to cossy parts being more expensive. not to mention its more upto date engine and is ultimately going to be far more reliable than a cosworth. for instance the zetec uses a coil pack, the cozzy uses a distributor and converting to coil pack poses problems to overcome. you wont get those problems on a zetec engine!

200bhp for 2k is rubbish, when u can pick up a 24v with more power for £200 and it goes straight in.
not saying there not worthwhile as i wish i had the money to go the turbo route.
tbh though if i was going the n/a route i'd go old school and stick either a 302 or 351 ford small block v8. with a few chice mods its upto 350bhp+ easy and its still on carb and dizzy and will sound the muts nuts!
i'm actully planning on that conversion into a mk3 capri in the future.
having said that if sticking 2l then carbs, cams and ignition module to run the coil pack on the mondeo engine will see a nice amount of power, should be around 180bhp maybe a bit more. they usually get 170 on carbs and zorst alone.
that keeps it nice and cheap but obviously less reliable being on carbs and requiring the carbs jetting and equalising.
that keeps it nice and cheap but obviously less reliable being on carbs and requiring the carbs jetting and equalising.
Here you go one of the saffs with the zetec.



I'm fitting on into my Saff soon. Having a CVH is a good start. You need the sump off it to go on the zetec.
And if you have an ESC unit on it thats another good bit, it will run the zetec ignition on a coil pack. Then get a set of bike carbs and fuel pump and your off.



I'm fitting on into my Saff soon. Having a CVH is a good start. You need the sump off it to go on the zetec.
And if you have an ESC unit on it thats another good bit, it will run the zetec ignition on a coil pack. Then get a set of bike carbs and fuel pump and your off.
thats a 'trust' inlet isnt it, my mate had one on his zetec turbo saph.
remember it being a nice bit of kit.
we didnt use a water rail kit either, we cut a box out the bulk head and used a metal cvh thromostat housing.
(we were skint , cutting was free, water rail was 120 notes )
remember it being a nice bit of kit.
we didnt use a water rail kit either, we cut a box out the bulk head and used a metal cvh thromostat housing.
(we were skint , cutting was free, water rail was 120 notes )
People are volunteering other information that may be useful to him or other people who are searching for info on engines and sierras, any of it which isnt interesting to him can easly be ignored anyway. Cant see what your issue is TBH, lots of people ask questions about one engine but end up fitting another.
if money is an issue then dropping in a boa is simply the best idea for power/£
if you need to drop in a zetec, it's probably worthwhile mentioning the mk3 mondeo duratec engine is probably easier to get more power out of if you can get one for resonably money, easily get a whole car for £2k beacuse osmoene was flogging one for £750 the other day on here
so there are always other options if you want to stay 4 pot
if you need to drop in a zetec, it's probably worthwhile mentioning the mk3 mondeo duratec engine is probably easier to get more power out of if you can get one for resonably money, easily get a whole car for £2k beacuse osmoene was flogging one for £750 the other day on here
so there are always other options if you want to stay 4 pot
Got a bob in mine. There far too heavy. Gives the sierra more understeer, unless you have 4wd to pull it around.
Oh and for a v6 you need to find a box too. Either build one or buy one there about £300.
I'd say the zetec into a cvh is the cheapest option by far.
Oh and for a v6 you need to find a box too. Either build one or buy one there about £300.
I'd say the zetec into a cvh is the cheapest option by far.
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Have to agree, its a bit more engineering (mounts and water pipes) but its an easier swap, and can always be turboed at a later date.
mate do it.............
easy conversion if you got all the bits me and my mates are doing a zetec conversion on a mk2 3door sierra at the moment.
it had a litre twin cam 8v in it orignally.
we changed the engine mounts for 1.8cvh oneswhich bolt straight on to a silver top zetec ,bar one hole. that way you can use all standard mounts. gearbox bolts straight up in standard postion.
one main thing is problem is that the flywheel is different as it has no pick up points for the crank sensor but this can be solved.
either.... use zetec flywheel and have it redrilled to suit the 1800 cvh cover plate or
...... use all standard zetec clutch and flywheel and modify the release are and use suitable release bearing
before someone says it cant be done it can my old man and i have done it in our 2litre zetec mk2 cortina .
then if you sort out a waterail for the thermostat it can all connect up to standard rad.
use an ashley 4branch manifold and mate it to the 1800cvh exhaust system not a pinto engined exhaust system because it starts on the wong side of the car
simples
easy conversion if you got all the bits me and my mates are doing a zetec conversion on a mk2 3door sierra at the moment.
it had a litre twin cam 8v in it orignally.
we changed the engine mounts for 1.8cvh oneswhich bolt straight on to a silver top zetec ,bar one hole. that way you can use all standard mounts. gearbox bolts straight up in standard postion.
one main thing is problem is that the flywheel is different as it has no pick up points for the crank sensor but this can be solved.
either.... use zetec flywheel and have it redrilled to suit the 1800 cvh cover plate or
...... use all standard zetec clutch and flywheel and modify the release are and use suitable release bearing
before someone says it cant be done it can my old man and i have done it in our 2litre zetec mk2 cortina .
then if you sort out a waterail for the thermostat it can all connect up to standard rad.
use an ashley 4branch manifold and mate it to the 1800cvh exhaust system not a pinto engined exhaust system because it starts on the wong side of the car
simples
mate do it.............
easy conversion if you got all the bits me and my mates are doing a zetec conversion on a mk2 3door sierra at the moment.
it had a litre twin cam 8v in it orignally.
we changed the engine mounts for 1.8cvh oneswhich bolt straight on to a silver top zetec ,bar one hole. that way you can use all standard mounts. gearbox bolts straight up in standard postion.
one main thing is problem is that the flywheel is different as it has no pick up points for the crank sensor but this can be solved.
either.... use zetec flywheel and have it redrilled to suit the 1800 cvh cover plate or
...... use all standard zetec clutch and flywheel and modify the release are and use suitable release bearing
before someone says it cant be done it can my old man and i have done it in our 2litre zetec mk2 cortina .
then if you sort out a waterail for the thermostat it can all connect up to standard rad.
use an ashley 4branch manifold and mate it to the 1800cvh exhaust system not a pinto engined exhaust system because it starts on the wong side of the car
simples
easy conversion if you got all the bits me and my mates are doing a zetec conversion on a mk2 3door sierra at the moment.
it had a litre twin cam 8v in it orignally.
we changed the engine mounts for 1.8cvh oneswhich bolt straight on to a silver top zetec ,bar one hole. that way you can use all standard mounts. gearbox bolts straight up in standard postion.
one main thing is problem is that the flywheel is different as it has no pick up points for the crank sensor but this can be solved.
either.... use zetec flywheel and have it redrilled to suit the 1800 cvh cover plate or
...... use all standard zetec clutch and flywheel and modify the release are and use suitable release bearing
before someone says it cant be done it can my old man and i have done it in our 2litre zetec mk2 cortina .
then if you sort out a waterail for the thermostat it can all connect up to standard rad.
use an ashley 4branch manifold and mate it to the 1800cvh exhaust system not a pinto engined exhaust system because it starts on the wong side of the car
simples
can u use the standard wiring?
do u need blacktop or silvertop??
Lad if this is any good to ya there is 2 blokes in northern ireland has done it 1 is showing a lot of detail on a thread on a website called jon44w.com His name is Decy so u can check it out and c how ya get on
Thread was deleted of jon44w hardly know where i could find it mate? In the middle of this conversion myself
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