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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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What is the differance or are they the same?
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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cosworth has a 9 bolt flywheel
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Bugger I need a Cossie 1 but have been offered a pinto dirty cheap
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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so could you not use the flywheel from the pinto or could the cossie flywheel be modified to accept the pinto crank?

need to know as i have 2 pinto engines waiting to be cossiefied
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No apart from the aforementioned flywheel difference the Cosworth one is forged so is way stronger than Pinto, about the only resemblance to a YB and a Pinto is the block.

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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
No apart from the aforementioned flywheel difference the Cosworth one is forged so is way stronger than Pinto, about the only resemblance to a YB and a Pinto is the block.

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was the 205 blocks selected by cosworth

is there no difference in the ones used for pinto than cosworth
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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so a 2wd cossie crank will fit into a pinto no problem then
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by damien roe
so a 2wd cossie crank will fit into a pinto no problem then
thats correct mate
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The 205 blocks were selected for there bore tolerance, Cosworth asked for only Grade 2 and 3 so if you look by the dizzy you will see 4 numbers I.E 2222 is a Cosworth block, it will also have YBB then a 4 digit number by the water pump engraved into the block apart from there there is no difference, once you rebore these numbers become totally irrelevant anyway.

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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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The difference between a 205 non cossie and 205 cossie block is really not worth worrying about, can use a normal 205 without problem.
The flywheels can be made to fit the "wrong" crank no problem, with some welding/filling and machining.
The cranks will as said directly swap over.
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I have been offered a 202 engine can I use the block crank and rods for my Cossie or not?
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if i remember right i was told that a 202 is the weaker block
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a 202 block is out of a transit mate , i wouldnt bother stick to the cossie 205 block for a no hassle 400 bhp
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What about the crank and rods mate can I use them for my Cossie?
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YB rods are far superior to standard pinto rods so i wouldnt use them
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just out of interest im planning on building a high specced pinto for my mk2 would fitting cossie crank and rods be a good idea and would it work ie. the rods the same length
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Originally Posted by damien roe
just out of interest im planning on building a high specced pinto for my mk2 would fitting cossie crank and rods be a good idea and would it work ie. the rods the same length
thats what my mate did for his track/rally car, seems to be a good job so far
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oh yes im liking this idea of a pinworth
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by damien roe
oh yes im liking this idea of a pinworth

A mate of mine made a Pinworth a few years back, cossie bottom end, big valve pinto head and a T4....went well until it snapped it propshaft on us whilst in France
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Old Aug 18, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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Just get an old smokey joe 205 cossie bottom end and a nice new set of 92-93mm 12.1cr pisons and bolt a big valve big port pinto 8 valve head on it and you have a bullet proof pinto!!Twin 48s a nice ex manifold and 200 hp with the right cam!!!


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Originally Posted by Danny @ Enhanced Performance
Just get an old smokey joe 205 cossie bottom end and a nice new set of 92-93mm 12.1cr pisons and bolt a big valve big port pinto 8 valve head on it and you have a bullet proof pinto!!Twin 48s a nice ex manifold and 200 hp with the right cam!!!


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great info danny but what would make a good road set up
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 06:51 AM
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Or don't overdo the head job and stick with 45's with 36 or 38mm chokes for a vastly more tractable 180bhp that isn't lag city, keeping the std pinto crank and rods which will piss this power all day long and be cheaper than anything cossie wise, a tractable 180bhp is massively better all day long than a always out of the power band 200bhp, been there done that.
I swapped DCOE 48's for 45's DHLA, a better carb by the way, stays in tune much longer, getting vastly better torque curves due to higher air speed through carb, the key is air speed I usually ran with 36mm chokes around 175bhp with piper BP285H cam profile ground onto my std cam, and used longer rocker post bolts with extended long pad followers, otherwise they can rip out!!, only had it once, but a 3 cyl pinto is slow!!
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Old Aug 19, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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I have got a 202 here for Ł50 I take it none of it is any good for a Cossie then
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202 block is a late transit block, the number on the end I.E the 2 in this case dictates 1992 in the same way the 0 on the end of a 200 block means introduced in 1990 although this was stronger than the legacy blocks I.E 205 (Excluding YBD 205). People do use them as they are more avaliable and cheaper than the rest I think they have less core plug holes than the 205 though and you can't long stud them.

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