Hi,

I've been on the hunt for a daily driver for a while now. Spotted one I liked on Auto Trader on Monday advertised by A&G Motors in Wakefield. Phoned up about it and spoke to a guy called Andy.

I told him how interested I was in buying the car and that I had the full cash amount waiting, and asked him how soon I could come down to see it (with a view to buying). The earliest that suited him was apparantly tomorrow (ie Saturday), despite my offering to come down the day after my phone call (ie this Tuesday past), and also stating that I could come down any day this week.

So we agreed that I'd come down on Saturday to see and buy it because that suited him best. I phoned him again on Tuesday to get details for the HPI check and arrange my insurance, and once again confirmed that I would definitely buy the car if it was as described. He asked me to phone him tonight to confirm that I was still coming down tomorrow.

So as he requested, I have just phoned him, only to be told "Sorry, i've just sold the car to someone else today". So despite my paying for the full HPI, arranging insurance and agreeing to buy the car he's gone and sold it to someone else on a day that apparantly didn't suit him for me to come and view the car .

I understand that money talks, and that from his point of view there was a chance I might not have turned up tomorrow, which is fair enough. However, what pisses me off is that I could have easily gone down on any day this week to buy it, but it supposidly didn't suit him :w all:

 

What a dick wonder why he wanted to wait a week before selling it

 

Couldn't you have just turned up and had a look at the car on the forecourt? Or was it strictly viewing by appointment only?

 

What a cock, such a ballache buying cars and arranging everything/deal etc etc....sounds like he already had someone else lined up for the car if you ask me and you were his first reserve

 

That's just how it is a year ago I was looking at a car in engerland, payed for a hpi check and a aa check, aa landed out to it and it was sold, I was out about 150 shit happens

 

Thought you had a mint Golf fella ??

That sucks though, Pure fucking ignorant and better not spending the cash at his business, Probably held you off matey because in most cases the car wasnt as described and he wanted time to hide something

 

what did you say to him? few choice words?

 

i allways turn up un anounced lots of traders advertise cars when they just got them in then wag them up and valet them if theres intrest,
he prob had some interest in it and if that sale fell through he was banking on you

 

i hope you gave him a fucking mouthfull mate.

 

I purposely phoned a guy selling a car saying i would be there at a certain time and turned up 1 hour early to catch the fucker out LOL

And he was putting a sealent through the cooling system when i turned up

 

Ive had this before i was on the way to view the car when i phoned to ask for directions only to be told that he had sold the car!!! However from the salesman point of view my missus father runs a second hand car firm and cos of the amount of tossers who time waste money talks.

 

Just summed it up well,timewasters account for 90% of the buyers out there unfortunatley!!I had a guy down before who came and drove my cav v6 for an hour,jacked it up to check all the lower arms had been changed,I'd already had it hpi'd so he phoned up to double check,rang his missus to say he wanted it etc etc.begged me to keep it til 6pm when his mrs finished work as she had the cash,it was only a Ł600 car.reluctantly I agreed,asked him for a deposit but he said he why as he'd be down at 6 to buy it.off he went,had a phonecall 2 mins later asking if the car was for sale ,assumed it was his mate checking up and told them it was sold,lost both sales as the little prick never came back.I'm not saying your a timewaster as you weren't but maybe this guy could sell the car on finance where he'd get a commission or maybe some idiot came in with a nice px that he robbed them on,it does happen mate,but it's not nice on either side!!!

 

Jay-Kay - I wanted to, but viewing was strictly by appointment only. Now I know why

rstdave - the more I think about it, you're totally correct. He wanted me to phone him tonight after 6pm (ie after time of closing at 5pm). It must have been because he had a viewing lined up today, and wanted me to phone after it. Really pisses me off that pricks like him think its ok to piss people around like this, both in terms of time and money.

Csm - still got the Golf, but want to keep it mint - so the plan is to get a daily driver for when im working in Aberdeen. The car checked out 100% ok, spent ages checking MOT history, phoned the BMW garage it was serviced in, HPI, the lot! I'm just trying to think, fuck him, better that i spend my money else where now, and just as well I never made the trip down there tomorrow to find the car had gone.

vaughant - I do understand where you are coming from, but what pisses me off is the need for him to be so devious about it. Why not be honest and say, "I've got someone lined up for a viewing on Friday, if it falls through you are welcome to come and see it on Saturday". Had he been honest and said that then I'd have no problem with it - rather than him decieving me.

Stevie - I was close, but knew if I started I wouldn't have stopped. Phoned using my parents number and didn't want anything coming back about it which would have brought them into it.

 

It's Wakefield mate it's full of scamming bastards

 

vaughant - I do understand where you are coming from, but what pisses me off is the need for him to be so devious about it. Why not be honest and say, "I've got someone lined up for a viewing on Friday, if it falls through you are welcome to come and see it on Saturday". Had he been honest and said that then I'd have no problem with it - rather than him decieving me.

Agree totally,I'd love to find someone like you to buy my cars!!!!

 

Lol - must be a nice area then . From my point of view its difficult to tell what are good and bad areas if I dont live local to them.

vaughant - find me a good diesel estate and you've got a deal

 

Hi mate,give fordsportjay a try on here,never heard a bad word about him,I only really sell nails!!!but I do sell them cheap!!!

 

I think I know who your talking about, for my sins I'm from Wakefield and an ex car trader but that's a cunts trick what he's done

 

why ask to go!!!!!!!!!!-------- should have just gone!
suprised him-first come first served

 

Viewing was strictly by appointment only - now I know why! Even if i'd chosen to turn up, his business is convieniently registered at his home address where the cars are not stored, so I had no idea where he had the car.

I might give Jay a shout , but will now have to leave it until after my holiday. Wanted a car before going on holiday, as when I come back I really didn't have enough time to buy a car and move up to Aberdeen before my new job starts

 

Hi fellas. This is a quick visit and I probably won't be back again after this post.

I won't say who I am, but just joined up to say to Agar the op that he had a very lucky escape and that the seller is committing a criminal offence in the way he is selling cars and is under investigation.
There is no forecourt to visit either.

Although I said I probably won't visit this site again, I will come back with the outcome to give, not just Agar, but you all, the satisfaction of what happens.

I have noted that you paid out good money for some vehicle checks to be done Agar and if there is the chance we can help you recover that outlay, I will be in touch.

Good luck gentlemen and enjoy your forum.

 

Random!!

 

yep, i,d be on the guys case for a refund for the the checks you paid out on before even seeing the car!!

 

luck escape by the sounds of windsor talk

who sounds like some one investigating said company and this has threads popped up on a goole search

go get him danno ........sling the book at him


look forward to your update !!!


paul

 

hey

i compleatly disagree with you the lad dose right .look at it from his point you could of not evan shown up an he cant tern people away . it is a busines they run. 70 percent of people who book to view a car eather dont show up or do not buy . how did he now you wer so interested . for all he knows you could of just been another tyer kiker.ps i atualy bought a car from a&gmotors ltd and i am very impresed with the service they gave . and got a good deal pal. a&g motors 10 / 10

 

Haha, you wouldn't happen to be connected to them in some way... just that you've gone out of your way to register here, just to give us your experience, which is weird.


Cheers,
Grant

 

And which one are you ? A or G of A&G Motors?

Beaten to it by RS Grant.

 

Any one understand the above?

 

I hope passionford issue you a bill for advertising for starters

what a tool

 

Tosser`s i would have burnt the rest of his cars on the forecourt.

 

Hi, and very many thanks for your reply, whoever you are?!

I didn't notice your reply until this evening - so apologies for my very delayed response. By the sounds of things I had a lucky escape, which I am very thankful for now.

I would be interested to hear the outcome of the investigation, if thats possible.

Many thanks,

Agar

 

Had to subscribe as this could get interesting

 

Conveniently from Wakefield too!!!!!!!!!

 

what a coont

 

You've clearly either failed to grasp the whole point of my annoyance, or you work for A&G - I think its the latter. In which case please pass on my regards to Andy - I think he'll need all the help he can get since he is now being investigated. I hope he can sleep ok at night

I never said I had an issue with any car dealer selling a car to the first person who turns up with cash for it (see quote from my original post below). I'd do exactly the same had it been me selling the car.


What I wouldn't do to someone looking to buy a car I'd advertised, is lie to them. For example, by telling them they can't come and view the car until the following weekend, because I was apparantly not available during the week. The purpose of this lie being to hide the fact that a potential buyer has already been lined up. Thus, misleading the '2nd in reserve' prospective buyer to believe that they will be the very first person to view the car once the seller becomes "available" again at the weekend. Had I known I was "2nd in reserve" there is no way I would have gone to the hassle of arranging insurance and paying for a full HPI check. My mistake was obviously taking his word as gospel.

I could have easily been down to view the car, several days before the Saturday I agreed to view it with Andy. But it was left until Sat because he was "not available" on Wed-Fri of that week. But then someone he sells the car to someone of the Fri he was apparantly not available.

P.S. - I've noticed that if you type "A&G Motors Wakefield" into Google, this thread and it's title is 4th from the top of the page, and clearly visible - which is nice!

 

Can you type that again in English.

 

Gotta follow this one

 

Having had a think about your post above, it has three major flaws, in my mind indicating that you are definitely someone who works at A&G Motors. It was pretty obvious all along who you were, but just to prove it, I'll explain how you've really just shown yourself up:

1. You say:

This sounds very much like you are speaking from personal experience - i.e. you are a saleman/scumbag (delete as appropriate ) who works for them, and knows from experience that 70% of people don't show up to view cars after phoning about them. Given the way that you conduct your business affairs, I'm actually surprised that percentage isn't even higher.

You're obviously too ignorant to realise that you've got yourself into your own vicious circle, and are the ones fueling the problem. If you didn't lie to prospective customers, then perhaps more people might actually show up to view your cars. Instead, you decide to lie to innocent prospective customers.


2. You are very quick to sing the praises of A&G Motors; giving them a 10/10. However, surely anyone in their right mind couldn't claim this about any company which is under investigation for a criminal offence


3. If you were actually someone who bought a car from A&G Motors, are you telling me, after reading this thread (containing not just my own problems with them, but Windor's more serious issue too) that you would honestly go to all the effort of signing up to defend them?

If I were the "happy customer" you are pretending to be, and had come on here and read Windor's comment about them being investigated, I think I'd be pretty worried and would be asking more questions about the investigation to see if the car I purchased off them was involved in the offence.