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Anyone on here play the guitar?
Hows the best way to learn i have a book and cd called 'Jamorama' but it is very slow what have people had a good experiance with book, cd, or get a one to one tutor?
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Hows the best way to learn i have a book and cd called 'Jamorama' but it is very slow what have people had a good experiance with book, cd, or get a one to one tutor?
cheers,
Phil
And I have to say.. first, get a teacher for the first 2 years and then youtube would help you out
ive been playing for years,,,,, but never been dedicated tbh
i spent 2 years trying to learn sweet child of mine from a book,,,,, from listening to it and just couldnt get it at all
i accidently found it on youtube and was shown what fingers to use ect and now i can finally play it
YOU TUBE is the quickest way to learn how to play BUT you wont be a actually muscian but it will still be impresive when your with mates ect playing famous riffs out
oh and oasis chords are also a good thing to learn,,, not that difficult and again spoon fed on you tube
do a search on "come feel the noise" and it will show a good change that noel does to make the cords far more impresive
ps: the only thing you wont learn on youtube easy is apagios,,,,,, but they are just too fucking hard
oh and learn "blues box" and general petonic scales to help your fingers move around the guitar and in a year you will look like slash to all your mates,,,,,, unless they also play guitar
i spent 2 years trying to learn sweet child of mine from a book,,,,, from listening to it and just couldnt get it at all
i accidently found it on youtube and was shown what fingers to use ect and now i can finally play it
YOU TUBE is the quickest way to learn how to play BUT you wont be a actually muscian but it will still be impresive when your with mates ect playing famous riffs out
oh and oasis chords are also a good thing to learn,,, not that difficult and again spoon fed on you tube
do a search on "come feel the noise" and it will show a good change that noel does to make the cords far more impresive
ps: the only thing you wont learn on youtube easy is apagios,,,,,, but they are just too fucking hard
oh and learn "blues box" and general petonic scales to help your fingers move around the guitar and in a year you will look like slash to all your mates,,,,,, unless they also play guitar
having a ear for music is sort of a skill that dont come natural to everyone, i have a ear for it but im crap and writing tunes that sound good,,,,,then tend to either sound crap or,,,,,,, its ends up being a tune ive already heard and im playing it a bit wrong pmsl
seriously youtube taught me some riffs that i struggled with,,,,,, its like having a teacher beside you when ever you want for as long as you want
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Ex hubby played guitar in a band, our son now wants to play and he hasnt even offered to teach him....the twat! Put him in music lessons but cost me way too much. Youtube does some good stuff on there, and its free!
I've played the guitar and various instruments in brass bands all my life, and although tuition helps with technical development, you can't really beat your own ears. Learn some chords and listen to music, eventually it will click with enough practice and you'll be amazed to find yourself playing difficult pieces of music without even stopping and starting.
Youtube is ace if you want to learn chords or specific pieces of music, plenty of videos that break songs down with close ups of each and every chord
Youtube is ace if you want to learn chords or specific pieces of music, plenty of videos that break songs down with close ups of each and every chord
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Learn the basic chords,e a g f d c and b,which is basically a power chord.choose a few songs that you like and try and work out the chords involved first or even look it up on t'internet.learn tab rather than music as it'll make more sense to technical minded types!!! To be honest with a guitar it's practice practice practice,you'll just get to one day and think"hmm,I'm finally getting this!!!".lessons are great but not cheap and you may even struggle to find anyone to teach you as their very popular with the kids as well.but believe me,it's a great hobby!!
First ask yourself what you actually want from learning to play. If it is just to learn a few licks then as said above, you tube the song your looking to play. ( but don't forget you may be watching a player with years of ability) If you want to become a musician then a teacher is a very good way, mostly because of their ability to slow you down to learning at a pace that is right for you, not what you "think" is right for you. learning to play an instrument is the same as any other learning process, your body and mind have to be conditioned to it slowly. Rush at it and you'll soon be discouraged and it'll become just another ornament in the attic.
Some pointers in here if you're just starting out:
https://passionford.com/forum/genera...r-players.html
Everyone has a different way of learning. I've been playing since i was 9 and i'm hitting 24 in a weeks time. Been playing as a professional since 19.
In all honesty its about what you want to play. Forget learning chords or scales just yet. They are not important when starting out.
Best way to learn is to learn to play what you want to play and you'll start to learn more and more. When you start to learn your chords, you'll realize that most the stuff you've been playing is whatever chord you maybe learning.
Everyone is suggesting to learn Scales and Chords straight out but trust me when i say you'll give up learning because its not what you want to play.
I've been teaching for the past year now and i found students losing motivation when you tell them what to learn. Now i ask them to bring in a piece they want to learn and i'll break down to make it easier to teach.
Here's me playing a piece i wrote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HMQhuml0uc
In all honesty its about what you want to play. Forget learning chords or scales just yet. They are not important when starting out.
Best way to learn is to learn to play what you want to play and you'll start to learn more and more. When you start to learn your chords, you'll realize that most the stuff you've been playing is whatever chord you maybe learning.
Everyone is suggesting to learn Scales and Chords straight out but trust me when i say you'll give up learning because its not what you want to play.
I've been teaching for the past year now and i found students losing motivation when you tell them what to learn. Now i ask them to bring in a piece they want to learn and i'll break down to make it easier to teach.
Here's me playing a piece i wrote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HMQhuml0uc
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I just got an electric guitar and an amp from a mate. Ive had a wee look on youtube and tried to copy the tutorials and stuff on there but its really hard! 
I did manage to rattle out the simpsons, but it was really really slow

I did manage to rattle out the simpsons, but it was really really slow
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Agree with pardeep,you'll find from learning chords that you'll find certain songs come from just basic chords like "every rose has it's thorn" by poison is basically gggggggccccccccgggggggccccccc....it's not the best song admittedly!!!just gets ya learning!!!
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Thanks for all the replies guys. i really wanted to learn smells like teen spirit but fuck me thats hard. I laughed at the simpsons but now i think thats a really good idea. I 'll keep you posted on my progress.
Thanks for all the links.
cheers,
Phil
Thanks for all the links.
cheers,
Phil
Good Luck
the way forward with guitar is to learn TAB, then just tab every song you want to learn. eventually after a while you will be able to play a shit loads of different songs, and then you just keep practising those songs, and perfect the TAB by ear then. thats what i did 3 years ago with metal music. now i can play pretty much all trivium solos nice and fluidly. alltho im more into acoustic now.. but trust me mate,, TAB IS THE WAY TO GO
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I've looked in to learning TAB thats the way i'm going to go I don't want to be a proper muscian just be able to play my fav songs on the guitar.
Thanks again for all the advice.
cheers,
Phil
Thanks again for all the advice.
cheers,
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I've been playing on and off for the past ten years or so, but I wouldn't clasify myself as "being able to play guitar". I mean I can play - loads of songs, riffs, improvise stuff etc, but I don't actually know what I'm doing.
And thats the problem with YouTube and self teaching. I can sit down with a CD and after a while be able to play most of it. Rage Against The Machine's self titled record took me about a week or so to learn from start to finish. But you're not actually LEARNING what you're playing - you're just copying it. Same with YouTube - you can watch someone play Sweet Child O Mine and copy where they're fingers are on the fretboard, but you still don't know what you're playing.
You need a teacher, at least to learn the basics. I don't know what key stuff is in, or what note progression that particular run takes, certainly not stuff like pentatonic scales etc. A proper guitarist can look at a fret board and see note patterns through the frets and strings. He'll know before he even gets there what the 6th note will be and where it is on the fretboard, whereas I have to "find" it.
And thats the problem with YouTube and self teaching. I can sit down with a CD and after a while be able to play most of it. Rage Against The Machine's self titled record took me about a week or so to learn from start to finish. But you're not actually LEARNING what you're playing - you're just copying it. Same with YouTube - you can watch someone play Sweet Child O Mine and copy where they're fingers are on the fretboard, but you still don't know what you're playing.
You need a teacher, at least to learn the basics. I don't know what key stuff is in, or what note progression that particular run takes, certainly not stuff like pentatonic scales etc. A proper guitarist can look at a fret board and see note patterns through the frets and strings. He'll know before he even gets there what the 6th note will be and where it is on the fretboard, whereas I have to "find" it.
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1) the second "riff" - any reasons you kept flying up and down the board as opposed to switching stings?
2) the last section, where you used the bar, would have been PERFECT for sweeping!
3) where are the pinch harmonics?
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I've been playing on and off for the past ten years or so, but I wouldn't clasify myself as "being able to play guitar". I mean I can play - loads of songs, riffs, improvise stuff etc, but I don't actually know what I'm doing.
And thats the problem with YouTube and self teaching. I can sit down with a CD and after a while be able to play most of it. Rage Against The Machine's self titled record took me about a week or so to learn from start to finish. But you're not actually LEARNING what you're playing - you're just copying it. Same with YouTube - you can watch someone play Sweet Child O Mine and copy where they're fingers are on the fretboard, but you still don't know what you're playing.
You need a teacher, at least to learn the basics. I don't know what key stuff is in, or what note progression that particular run takes, certainly not stuff like pentatonic scales etc. A proper guitarist can look at a fret board and see note patterns through the frets and strings. He'll know before he even gets there what the 6th note will be and where it is on the fretboard, whereas I have to "find" it.
And thats the problem with YouTube and self teaching. I can sit down with a CD and after a while be able to play most of it. Rage Against The Machine's self titled record took me about a week or so to learn from start to finish. But you're not actually LEARNING what you're playing - you're just copying it. Same with YouTube - you can watch someone play Sweet Child O Mine and copy where they're fingers are on the fretboard, but you still don't know what you're playing.
You need a teacher, at least to learn the basics. I don't know what key stuff is in, or what note progression that particular run takes, certainly not stuff like pentatonic scales etc. A proper guitarist can look at a fret board and see note patterns through the frets and strings. He'll know before he even gets there what the 6th note will be and where it is on the fretboard, whereas I have to "find" it.
Thats pretty much what i want to do just play the songs i like not really interested in writing my own stuff and not bothered if i don't no what note i'm playing.
I'm sure a proper guitarist will call me a wanker for saying that!!!
cheers,
Phil
Everyone has a different way of learning. I've been playing since i was 9 and i'm hitting 24 in a weeks time. Been playing as a professional since 19.
In all honesty its about what you want to play. Forget learning chords or scales just yet. They are not important when starting out.
Best way to learn is to learn to play what you want to play and you'll start to learn more and more. When you start to learn your chords, you'll realize that most the stuff you've been playing is whatever chord you maybe learning.
Everyone is suggesting to learn Scales and Chords straight out but trust me when i say you'll give up learning because its not what you want to play.
I've been teaching for the past year now and i found students losing motivation when you tell them what to learn. Now i ask them to bring in a piece they want to learn and i'll break down to make it easier to teach.
Here's me playing a piece i wrote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HMQhuml0uc
In all honesty its about what you want to play. Forget learning chords or scales just yet. They are not important when starting out.
Best way to learn is to learn to play what you want to play and you'll start to learn more and more. When you start to learn your chords, you'll realize that most the stuff you've been playing is whatever chord you maybe learning.
Everyone is suggesting to learn Scales and Chords straight out but trust me when i say you'll give up learning because its not what you want to play.
I've been teaching for the past year now and i found students losing motivation when you tell them what to learn. Now i ask them to bring in a piece they want to learn and i'll break down to make it easier to teach.
Here's me playing a piece i wrote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HMQhuml0uc

i dont play but wish i could
my mates son plays and for his age i think hes awesome http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/...subj=851359270
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni6OZCynHUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFYSuUmW8uo
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Fuck me just watched this..frigging wished I could play like that... I'm finding it hard where to palce my fingers and get them into the right place pmsl, if you understand that lmfsao... just find it hard to bend my hand into that position if you know what I mean..
and trying to understand which notes are the correct ones..yep I'm crap at the mo..but really want to learn how to play..even just a few tunes would be great...
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Fuck me just watched this..frigging wished I could play like that... I'm finding it hard where to palce my fingers and get them into the right place pmsl, if you understand that lmfsao... just find it hard to bend my hand into that position if you know what I mean..
and trying to understand which notes are the correct ones..yep I'm crap at the mo..but really want to learn how to play..even just a few tunes would be great...
and trying to understand which notes are the correct ones..yep I'm crap at the mo..but really want to learn how to play..even just a few tunes would be great...
I'm shitter than a shit thing with shit written on it.
must keep practising.
Phil
Nice mate, nice. Can I just say two things tho? (well three actually)
1) the second "riff" - any reasons you kept flying up and down the board as opposed to switching stings?
2) the last section, where you used the bar, would have been PERFECT for sweeping!
3) where are the pinch harmonics?
1) the second "riff" - any reasons you kept flying up and down the board as opposed to switching stings?
2) the last section, where you used the bar, would have been PERFECT for sweeping!
3) where are the pinch harmonics?

I am switching strings but i'm using octaves on each string
I tried sweeping and it sounded to mechanical for my liking lol
No pinch harmonics
Zkk Wylde has taken the fun out of it for us guitarists LOL
i dont play but wish i could
my mates son plays and for his age i think hes awesome http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/...subj=851359270
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni6OZCynHUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFYSuUmW8uo

Fuck me just watched this..frigging wished I could play like that... I'm finding it hard where to palce my fingers and get them into the right place pmsl, if you understand that lmfsao... just find it hard to bend my hand into that position if you know what I mean..
and trying to understand which notes are the correct ones..yep I'm crap at the mo..but really want to learn how to play..even just a few tunes would be great...
and trying to understand which notes are the correct ones..yep I'm crap at the mo..but really want to learn how to play..even just a few tunes would be great...
Just practice, practice and practice.
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Yeah I've noticed some peoples sweeps sound mechanical and then some peoples sound very "organic". Guess it's just practice I guess....
But pinches are great! Fuck Zakk, he just over uses them! A well placed harmonic can be perfect, specially in a slower tempo solo piece like yours. A little sustain feedback would have worked in it too...
Damn, I should go into producing lol
But pinches are great! Fuck Zakk, he just over uses them! A well placed harmonic can be perfect, specially in a slower tempo solo piece like yours. A little sustain feedback would have worked in it too...
Damn, I should go into producing lol
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i dont play but wish i could
my mates son plays and for his age i think hes awesome http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/...subj=851359270
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni6OZCynHUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFYSuUmW8uo
very impressed he's really good.
Have you got tablature software already? If not you can download a free one, Powertab, below. You might also like Guitarpro 5 which you can get by searching for it off the below torrent site.
http://www.power-tab.net/guitar.php
http://btjunkie.org/
Then just search for your favourite songs you want to learn and download the relevant file, a lot better than looking at the plain old text ones.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/
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Its not hard, even the solo is really easy and after a while you'll think that too. Just break it down into small chunks, even a bar at a time if you need. Get it in your memory then you can play it over and over until its smooth. Tab programs help because you can hear how it should be whilst seeing what you should be playing.
Have you got tablature software already? If not you can download a free one, Powertab, below. You might also like Guitarpro 5 which you can get by searching for it off the below torrent site.
http://www.power-tab.net/guitar.php
http://btjunkie.org/
Then just search for your favourite songs you want to learn and download the relevant file, a lot better than looking at the plain old text ones.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/
Have you got tablature software already? If not you can download a free one, Powertab, below. You might also like Guitarpro 5 which you can get by searching for it off the below torrent site.
http://www.power-tab.net/guitar.php
http://btjunkie.org/
Then just search for your favourite songs you want to learn and download the relevant file, a lot better than looking at the plain old text ones.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/
Thanks for the links i was just looking a plain text ones i had found on the internet i'll definatly give them ago.
Cheers,
Phil
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I had an electric guitar coach program that had a guitar tuner built into it but for some reason it doesn't work on my new laptop(windows 7) any one no of a free downloadable one that's any good.
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I used to play the Clarinet years ago ¬_¬, that tought me how to read music and all.
Like Pardeep said: 'Best way to learn is to learn to play what you want to play and you'll start to learn more and more. When you start to learn your chords, you'll realize that most the stuff you've been playing is whatever chord you maybe learning.'
Thats what I did learnt some easy stuff when starting out, then started to link the theory to it, you realize you've learnt alot of the basic theory just from playing your favorite tunes.
Just keep at it
Like Pardeep said: 'Best way to learn is to learn to play what you want to play and you'll start to learn more and more. When you start to learn your chords, you'll realize that most the stuff you've been playing is whatever chord you maybe learning.'
Thats what I did learnt some easy stuff when starting out, then started to link the theory to it, you realize you've learnt alot of the basic theory just from playing your favorite tunes.
Just keep at it
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I have just learnt to play my first tune it's not perfect and a little slow but it actually sounded like the song. I have to admit a one armed monkey could have proberly played it better but i can still say i can play come as you are by Nivarna on guitar. sweet well pleased with my self.

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I'll do a chord video this weekend. I'll keep it simple. Just the Basic A B C D E F G!!!
I may throw in a quick 1minute showing the basic pentatonic scale (the easiest scale ever)
I may throw in a quick 1minute showing the basic pentatonic scale (the easiest scale ever)







