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Old May 11, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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hey guys just wondering which is the better car ?

saff 2wd or 4x4? which is faster?
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iv had both and i personally prefer the 4x4, my 2wd was just to unpriditable was more powerfull than the one i have now though, just prefer not having a car try killing me every time it rains lol
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depends how you drive and what you want from a car
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Old May 11, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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How many threads do we have on this question
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Old May 11, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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Let the fighting begin!!
A very personal thing, they drive totally different esp when being pushed, 2wd massively harder to drive on the limit, but more rewarding(I feel).
Best advice I can give is to drive one of each, 2wd generally cheaper to tune, once you hit 350bhp in a 4wd it gets very expensive compared with stronger 2wd trans.
In an idlea world I'd have switchable 2wd in the dry, and most wet, but if going mental in the wet I'd have 4wd.
RWD doesn't stand for rear wheel drive it stands for RIGHT wheel drive!!
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The best one is which ever YOU prefer, end of!
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a 4x4 sapph is a very capable car for all weathers and very shore footed with decent suspension a 2wd as said is great fun and will keep you on your toes if driven hard useless in the wet but great fun depends on your driving experience and funds really
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Old May 11, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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there both good cars but i went for a rwd as i think they look better without bonnet vents and the rwd lights also i always wonted to tune mine heavily and rwd drive transmision stands up to power much better and is cheaper when u get to the point of needing to uprate it aswell!. Also with the new rear beams / suspention and tyre set ups now rwd in the dry can be almost as good as 4x4 on the road and is always more fun too in my opinion
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depends what you want from it really.

if you cain it all weathers and arnt bothered about power over stage 3 then 4wd

if you like tyre smoke, burnouts and drifting then 2wd

as to which will be quicker, standard 0-60 4wd wins (i think cant remeber off the top of my head), in the wet 4wd wins, in the dry generally 2wd wins

back to the wet vs dry though, youve got to remember that its a ford so any time in the rain and there will be no sills and arches by the time you get home , and how many people really push it in the wet????
rwd will only step out if you make it
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Originally Posted by jammerrs
as to which will be quicker, standard 0-60 4wd wins (i think cant remeber off the top of my head),
I've got pretty much every mag test from when they were new and interestingly enough the 2wd set 90% of the fastest times to 60 and 100.
Pretty much every set of test figures I've seen was figured in the dry.
2wd Sapphires usually turned in 5.8/5.9 seconds for the 60 run. 4wd ers were usually a few tenths slower.
Mind you that was mag road testers in a press car
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Not this old chestnut again

2wd=boy racer going sideways and doing doughnuts, usually ends up wrapped around the nearest lampost or tree

4x4=good grip of the line and you are able to throw it around the twisty bits

a mate of mine has just converted his 4x4 saph to a 2wd, he is on his 3rd diff already 2wd is not as bullet proof as some people llike to think


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I love this question so much lol.
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Originally Posted by Mike1
I've got pretty much every mag test from when they were new and interestingly enough the 2wd set 90% of the fastest times to 60 and 100.
Pretty much every set of test figures I've seen was figured in the dry.
2wd Sapphires usually turned in 5.8/5.9 seconds for the 60 run. 4wd ers were usually a few tenths slower.
Mind you that was mag road testers in a press car
i bet its quicker from 30 up as the grip isnt an issue then and theres less weight to move
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Old May 12, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by b19 dfp
if your a poof and you need gay wheel drive then 4x4 but if your a proper driver 2wd all the way!!!!

cheers danny
Yeh you must be a real man


Stupid questions get stupid answers. Which is faster?? Well there aren't many standard saphs around and there are so many variables in tuning why bother asking a question like this lol. If you want to know the specs of the standard cars than that is different. 2wd is generally lighter due to less transmission weight, but 2wd's are limited by the inferior 205 block.
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2wd.
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Old May 13, 2010 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by b19 dfp
if your a poof and you need gay wheel drive then 4x4 but if your a proper driver 2wd all the way!!!!
cheers danny
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Yeh you must be a real man

He is mate built like a brick outhouse if you know what I mean


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Old May 13, 2010 | 04:35 AM
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2WD for the purists; 4X4 for those who don't care.
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Old May 13, 2010 | 05:37 AM
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I'm just in the middle of converting mine to 2wd. I just basically got bored with 4wd and over the years I've driven quite a lot of 2wd's and they do seem to drive nicer to me. Yes, they are a bit more lively at the back end as you would expect but you've just got to learn to respect the car more.

Also a lot easier to work on which is a bonus!!
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Old May 13, 2010 | 07:20 AM
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I've got pretty much every mag test from when they were new and interestingly enough the 2wd set 90% of the fastest times to 60 and 100.
Pretty much every set of test figures I've seen was figured in the dry.
2wd Sapphires usually turned in 5.8/5.9 seconds for the 60 run. 4wd ers were usually a few tenths slower.
Mind you that was mag road testers in a press car
i bet its quicker from 30 up as the grip isnt an issue then and theres less weight to move
Yes, you are right. The 4x4s were a couple of tenths quicker to 30 than the 2wds in the majority of tests. There was one test of a 4x4 against a Carlton 3000 GSi 24v and a Saab 9000 Carlsson where the Sierra pulled a 5.6 however. Also the 4x4 second gear seems to run out at about 60mph exactly (?) whereas the 2wd manages 63ish at max revs so I expect that has a bearing if they are having to change gear just at the 60mph mark
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it doesnt matter!!!!!!!!!! it'll spend most of the time in the fuckin garage bein fixed!!! lol
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2wd defo unless u got over 400 in a 4x4 theres no point life is better sideways
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the fwd best
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the fwd best
FWD now thats just being f**king silly!
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Old May 13, 2010 | 02:04 PM
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fwd now thats just being f**king silly!

:dd: :dd: :dd:

lol god help you all if a new ford cosworth comes out and it's fwd, was funny enough when they
launched the focus rs500

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Originally Posted by martynhomer01
it doesnt matter!!!!!!!!!! it'll spend most of the time in the fuckin garage bein fixed!!! lol

haha your not far wrong there mate,
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Originally Posted by charlie luciano
Not this old chestnut again

2wd=boy racer going sideways and doing doughnuts, usually ends up wrapped around the nearest lampost or tree

4x4=good grip of the line and you are able to throw it around the twisty bits

a mate of mine has just converted his 4x4 saph to a 2wd, he is on his 3rd diff already 2wd is not as bullet proof as some people llike to think


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Originally Posted by focusrrx87
:dd: :dd: :dd:

lol god help you all if a new ford cosworth comes out and it's fwd, was funny enough when they
launched the focus rs500
That will never happen mate because the biggest mistake ford never made was not buying cosworth! So there will never be another cosworth ford (the name that put ford on the map) and if there was, cosworth are a motersport company so it would never be fwd mate it would be up-to date so 4x4!
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Originally Posted by jammerrs
depends what you want from it really.

if you cain it all weathers and arnt bothered about power over stage 3 then 4wd

if you like tyre smoke, burnouts and drifting then 2wd

as to which will be quicker, standard 0-60 4wd wins (i think cant remeber off the top of my head), in the wet 4wd wins, in the dry generally 2wd wins

back to the wet vs dry though, youve got to remember that its a ford so any time in the rain and there will be no sills and arches by the time you get home , and how many people really push it in the wet????
rwd will only step out if you make it
As said it's the other way round 2WD was faster than 4x4 from day 1 the 4x4 was the slowest of the range both acceleration and top speed due to transmission losses.

I personally have 2WD as don't like anything else full stop.

One is not better than the other really, apart from your preference as to which wheels the power is delivered to, the 4x4 has a stronger 200 block, not that the 205 in the 2WD is incapable at sensible power some even run 500+ HP on 205 and there ok, but 2WD has stronger transmission so horses for corses.

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Originally Posted by BJAS
2WD for the purists; 4X4 for those who don't care.
most sensible answer so far..

If you want 4wd dynamics go for somat Japanese an who'd want to do that..
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ive had both and to be honest unless your spending big money on a mint one id buy an evo 5 or 6
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Back in the early 90s I drove around 20 before buying mine. Simply put the 4x4 didn't seem as exciting to drive so I got one of the last 2wds. My mate took it to Interpro recently and was amazed by it - he is now converting his 4x4 to 2wd... but that's his choice.
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Like them both but 2wd just does it for me.
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i prefer 4wd, i like to get the power down, not spinning the wheels waiting for the grip.
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Originally Posted by martynhomer01
it doesnt matter!!!!!!!!!! it'll spend most of the time in the fuckin garage bein fixed!!! lol
No that's what happens when you buy a shitter mate
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the cossys are about fun!!!
if you wanna go properly quick you buy an rx7 or a skyline.
if you wanna look good you buy 350z or a boxter
but if you wanna be cool and have fun you buy a cossy, and its gotta be 2wd!!
nothing cooler than watching a sapphire on comps come round a roundabout the leave a big number 11 and a cloud of smoke as it exits. lol
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Originally Posted by m4tt274
the cossys are about fun!!!
if you wanna go properly quick you buy an rx7 or a skyline.
if you wanna look good you buy 350z or a boxter
but if you wanna be cool and have fun you buy a cossy, and its gotta be 2wd!!
nothing cooler than watching a sapphire on comps come round a roundabout the leave a big number 11 and a cloud of smoke as it exits. lol
boxter are for your wife 350z are guys who dont know about cars and think they have just got something fast rx7???? who has them lol and a well tuned cosworth done by someone who knows what they are doing with 500-600bhp is as fast as a skyline with 100-200bhp more!
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
i prefer 4wd, i like to get the power down, not spinning the wheels waiting for the grip.
a well set up rwd with good suspention tyres diff and the beam sorted out dosent spin up well maybe in the wet but then so do 4x4s in the wet
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
boxter are for your wife 350z are guys who dont know about cars and think they have just got something fast rx7???? who has them lol and a well tuned cosworth done by someone who knows what they are doing with 500-600bhp is as fast as a skyline with 100-200bhp more!
im talking about a cosworth budget.
a 500bph cosworth is vary rare and costs thousands whereas every other modified skyline has 500+ and costs half the price.
most people dont know about cars remember, if your trying to look good and pull women whatever a z4 or a 350z or boxter etc looks better than a shonky old sierra with a backbox!
and lots of people have rx7's, out of the box they will do a 13 second 1/4 and most have been modified, get to japfest or wherever and almost every rx7 will run an 10,11,12 second 1/4 i will guarantee it.
but the cossys are still more fun
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Originally Posted by ranzrs
hey guys just wondering which is the better car ?

saff 2wd or 4x4? which is faster?
off the line the 4wd and also in the corners the 2wd is not as good in the corners but still its very good the 4wd has more grip but the 2wd is more economical
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