Well we have had for the trusty old YB so far .......

8 injectors
Air Injectors
ECU monitors (PC and Standalone)
Closed Loop Fuelling on OEM Ecu
Coil Pack conversions on OEM ecu
ALS conversions on OEM ecu
Launch Control conversions on OEM ecu
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeedish inlet manifolds.
Inlet Manifold spacers.
Magnetic drain plugs.

Whats the next big thing ? .....


I am just curious if people have new "wish list" ideas on electrical or mechanical items or new trends that could be applied to the YB ?

The only thing I can think of roght now is closed loop wideband on the OEM ecu.

Sensible discussions welcomed

** OEM= Original equipment manufacturer

** This isnt an advert for me or MSD ... LOL

 

an S8 ECU

 

in all seriousness i think its good the OEM ECU is being developed further.

However, to me it just seems crazy money to have all these newer features added to an old ECU which then makes it more expensive than equivalent modern ECUs (and with most modern ECUS you get a new loom too so more saving).

 

Completely agree with Ran, only reason I went with all the L8 MSD gear is cos I got it cheap, having said that, it is still quite good

Simon,

Could it be the coil on plug conversion you're developing

I'd really like a SECS monitor that works with REVS on the coil pack conversion

It could be a really interesting thread, and over time it will be good to see what is next...maybe more people putting bigger turbos on standard heads?

 

Id be interested to see a variable cam timing arrangement tried given how cam timing sensitive the YB seems to be, so I reckon it could work well.

But TBH I just cant really see the point in trying to turn the YB into a modern engine, either enjoy its brutal 80s simplicity or buy a more modern engine I reckon!

 

i think Rich has done the put big turbo on std engine and got good results

for me it all depends upon how much more power you can extract from the engine over a std ecu and its driveability.

Most of the add ons that have been developed are std equipment on modern ECUs so why would you pay to have this added onto an old ECU?

I dont have a cossie anymore but i found all the options I wanted on mine were only available as add ons to the existing OEM ECU and thus were very expensive when compared to installing a modern ECU with new loom and map.

 

Coil-on-plug is pants. So I'm told...

 

diy ,cheap knock sensor

 

why would coil on plug be pants?

is it not a stronger individual spark to each cylinder.

 

Fuck me thats twice i've agreed with you this week chipper.

 

Getting its lardy arse weight down.

There are a couple of manufacturers of alloy blocks now for the YB but not heard much about how well they perform, especially at higher bhp levels.

 

How about a cheaper Accuvolt system than the Jacobs to run at 15v for Fuel Pump & will also supply 12v to all other accesories even when the Alternator fails & the battery drops to under 8V.

 

pmsl at the 'n95 8 injector conversion'

something that turns rust to solid metal instantly would be sure to be a huge hit

id like to see one make 1000bhp on english rollers (unless this has been done!?)

i dont think theres many mechanical things for the engines left, its all modern electronics now a days unless like Paul S says and they can make some lighter parts

 

I'd be quite surprised but pleased if someone bolts on a bigger turbo than mine on a standard ported head and didnt encounter surge and have to cap the boost.

Wouldnt call magnetic drain plugs a big thing either.

Agree with Rod - a cheaper Accuvolt system. I look at my volt gauge more than any other if im honest just because i have seen the results of an alternator failing when on the loud pedal

 

Congratulations mate, you must be getting smarter if you are now getting the correct answer more often

 

can the ecu not control the flow rate of the pump on the autronic and vipec?

i.e on several motec systems i have worked on they run several failsafe strategies, one being if the ecu power drops below a certain power the ecu triggers a failsafe strategy which puts the map in limp mode and slow the rate of the fuel pump also to save failure.

 

Assuming mark has set the voltage compensation table correctly (which im sure he has) it shouldnt actaully harm the engine if it runs low on voltage, although im not saying its a good idea to do so reguarly of course.

 

almost exactly what i was going to type.

 

How I have mapped my nova, it will lengthen the injector duration to allow for a drop in voltage at the ecu.

I cant imagine why you would want to slow the pump though, then you would get a drop if pressure too, and surely that is the last thing you want?

Unless you are monitoring the fuel pressure you are pretty much fucked once the pump stops working well enough to maintain pressure though, you would never be able to guess at it well enough, so the trick is just to get the ecu to stop allowing boost once the voltage drops enough that you believe fuel pressure has become a problem.

 

It does run on low voltage indeed. Just ask Rod how low a voltage i can run

But i really dont like it if im not seeing 14 at the battery mate

 

Didnt mention harming the engine Chipus just keeping 15v to the pump even when alternator fails & battery starts to drop.

 

Yeah yeah,cunt.

 

My T66 is on a standard ported head peaks at 2.2 bar (on the road) 1.9 bar (on the dyno) and doesn't have any surge, but yours does make about 70 BHP more
Rich

 

I want to do a twin charge conversion, and would be nice to see VNT technology filter down onto aftermarket turbos, be nice in either instance to fill that area under the graph in big 450+ cossies.

 

coil on plug conversion ----- talk to me ?

very intrested in this as i plan to run it on this bad boy


was tempted to go for autronic or vipec but if its possible to run it via l8 ?

anymore info simon ,

beef

 

Rich,

If you have no surge, and i assume there is no capping of the boost in the midrange and it makes as much boost as it can, as early as it can, then i would have thought with a mildly mental inlet cam you would wipe the floor with my car especially if you run 2.5 bar the T66 is massive isnt it?

 

I'd love to try a bigger inlet cam but i'm pretty sure the pistons aren't pocketed althought they are low compression. Ye it just makes as much boost as it likes Martoon set it up and it is lazy as you can see from the graph but doesn't drive a bad as the graph looks. Martin reckons it just so big that there is just not enough air low down in the range to spin it up so it doesn't surge at all. (Big ports and massive cams would help) It made that power at 1.9 Bar on the dyno but makes 2.2 Bar when driving on the road!?!? So it might be more not sure if you get more load on the road?

Rich

 

renault 5s have been running vnts for years with good results.
will be nice to see it hit the cossies

 

Replaced with JAP engine of sort's.......

 

Weird, was going to post the exact same thing.

 

EGR , Constant boost systems ?

Puddy

 

Coont
The ecu was good, it was me who failed
A small bit of extra development and backing could have made it very good .. IMO of course


Its only expensive due to the way its marketed , the technology isnt expensive or complicated


Yes I have developed a coil on plug adaptor for my personal car.
I will be doing a resto thread detailing my car soon

The old secs monitor rights and design are being transfered to a PF official trader including updated software that sorts that out.
I am sure that trader will make an announcment very soon


I like this !!!!!!
I have often thought about adapting an existing BMW system onto the YB but it isnt very good on the BMW so will be shit on a YB... lol


Knock link


Only in so much that on some cars, the heat of the engine can destroy the coils over time but those cars that have that problem are using shit coils in the first place

In fact this is the ideal ignition system if implemented properly.


I like this too !!
I think I will have a go at making one of these myself too !


The existing MSD coilpack driver board will run coil on plugs no problem.
Except, the coils are wired in pairs so effectively its a wasted spark system.

The one I have made for my own car is truly sequential

 

I love the way people make comments like "who fucking cares" in the tags... well you do, as you read the thread you stupid cunt(s)

 

Dont know if there would be room or need but ... High n Low Turbos .. (sequential)

 

So by that reasoning on P8 with wasted spark activated via pin 26 you could run coil on plug in a wasted spark way too???

 

already been done controlled by a pectel ecu
cossie owners weren't prepared to pay all those years ago

 

welding two together to make a v8

 

I'm glad you took notice of that cos it was mine, unlike a lot of people who add tags and stay hidden I'll always put my hands up to it and the only cunt is you, you scammer fucking thief, fuck you


Luciano

 

The trouble with running COP wasted spark is you are of course doubling the amount of work done by each COP, and with them already prone to failure in lots of instalations when running big rpm, thats obviously the last thing you want to do.

Given that the L8 is already sequential for fuelling and has the phase and crank sensor required accordingly I am sure it was pretty minimal extra effort to run it sequential, just a case of physically needing a couple more wires that makes it more difficult from a plug and play point of view as you must be running out now on the standard loom plug!

 

best of luck in what you do Simon - you are very good at engineering but utter crap at business so hope you can overcome your shortfalls from the previous attempt