Long story short the gf took her skyline to a garage as it failed the mot to have work done, it went past the mot retest date so they re tested it there for her and had to replace 2 front bushes which they did amongst other things which ended up costing a fortune, but passed.

Long story short i went outside to grease up thr front bushs as they squeak and they said they prob just need more grease in to find the nipples snapped off, which means it couldnt have even been done in the first place, but thats not my main concern......

What has concerned me MOT wise is when i jacked it up i noticed the brake hoses on BOTH sides have splits in so u can see the reinforcemnt underneath, what i need to know from the pics is this a fail on the mot as to me i would have thought it would have been, plus i dont remember them being like that when we put the car back together and back on the road (she got it from the garage she used 2 work at and had an engine rebuild which meant the whole front subframe/engine/box came out and back in again) which means they were possibly damaged when they fitted the bushes and not said anything.

so basically need to know if it should have passed or not like that, one for the testers out their please!!!

 

I would have failed it mate

 

Same here mate.. Big fail..

 

what i was thinking, so basically pointing towards it wasnt like that before and got damaged when they fitted the bushes, ffs getting pissed off with companys now!!

By rights it should have had the bushes fitted first then re-tested which i think she said they did it the other way round, and should have been picked up on, either way neither garage flagged up the hoses so cant have been like that before.

The first garage didnt fail the bushes but put it down as an advisory as he wasnt sure how much play it should have whereas this place looked at it and said it was a fail hence having to change them!!

Its not 1 side either its on both sides as they changed the bushes on both sides, so not like 1 could have split after we left!!!!

 

me too.

 

cheers boys, hows it stand with disputes against things like that?!

obviously shes gonna get in contact with them and send them the photos but it appears they let a car leave there with a new mot with damaged brake lines which is fcuking dangerous!! and theres no way they could have greased the new bushes with broken nipples, as u can see from the first pic theres a bit of fluid appears to be seeping too!! bad enough ina normal car let alone a GTR!!!

 

yep definite fail

 

A little abit of play is ok, but every tester will have a different view. That brake pipe don't look good though lol. You'll be hard pushed to get them to pay for the stuff they broke.

 

well thats why we didnt dispute this place replacing the bushes as it was already an advisory at the previous mot it failed on and he didnt seem too sure how much the gtr's had on them, but then we wernt expecting the cost to do it

why hard pushed?! if thats a fail then it shouldnt have passed the mot, which means the damage was done AFTER they MOT'd it and fitted the bushes, if they say they didnt damage them then its as good as them saying they passed it on the mot with damaged pipes......

 

contact vosa they don't deserve there mot licence letting your car leave like that with a full ticket, a full retest is required if you go over the given re-test period, so this should have been picked up. very dangerous.

 

well the first place that did it didnt mention anything about brake pipes, cos it expired while it was at the 2ND place (first place was just an mot garage) they said they would test it for her there so should have been a full test done there reguardless as it was a different place!!

thats why i needed some confirmation first before contacting them as to whether its a fail or not, as it looks like it is a fail then they cant really try and say it was like that before as if it was it should have failed which then means it must have been damaged after the mot while they were working on it.............

 

as said before very dangerous!! and i would of failed it!

 

I would get on to vosa straight away if i was you
Pricks like that dont deserve to have MOT licence and should be shut down , fuckin cunts
Makes my blood boil when people get ripped off for work shoddily* done
Get it sorted and dont let the wife drive it at any cost till it's fixed properly !!

 

i would complain. that is really dangerous. first contact them and explain the issure and guage their reaction and act accordingly. i would ring vosa ,

 

I ment hard pushed for them to pay for the new pipes,,, but i'm sure if you threaten them by contacting VOSA they will get it sorted quick.

 

Would be a fail,but try proving it was like that at test,

cheeRS stu

 

yea, well either way they have either passed the car with dodgy brake pipes or damaged them after the MOT fitting the bushes so either way are in the wrong, it was literally a few weeks ago!! she was gonna take it back cos the bushes are squeaking which they said was due to not enough grease but as u can see theres no nipples on there ie their broken so cant even have been done in the first bloody place!!

Added to that they were supposed 2 have repaired a boost problem that the garage she used 2 work at messed up, and today when we were out it was overboosting like fuck!!!

 

wasnt any mention at previos test of any damage to pipes, no mention at this one either, u cant expect anyone to think TWO brake hoses would get damaged like that in 2 weeks without any previous sign of fraying/wear?!

If they hadnt removed the arms etc to replace the bushes i wouldnt be so sure or if it was just 1 side, but both sides?! that they had worked on after the MOT....

 

best you can do is contact vosa they will test car so leave it like it is

only thing you will get out off it is a load off agro as in you can't repair car till vosa inspect it and the garage can't be made to pay you or put it right all vosa will do is give them points or revoke there licence

you will still have to get car repaired at your own expense

 

well shes gonna contact them tomorrow and see what they say, hpoefully they will offer to sort it all out and will save going to vosa.

TBH i doubt it was like that when it was mot'd as the previous place didnt comment on it nd i think the owner does the MOT's and i doubt they would risk their licence over it either, its pretty much a case of it appears the damage has been done after when whoever fitted the bushes and prob didnt tell the garage owner so will see what he has to say and go from there.

Just wanted to know before hand if something like that should have been a fail IF they say it wasnt like that when mot'd as as its pretty obvious then the damage was done after when bushes were fitted.

Also out of interest should they have re-tested it after the bushes were done taking into account it was failed on them?! or because they did the work can they pass it then do the work after?!

Just been underneath and noticed fluid leaking from the hydraulic clutch too so will find out if they didnt anything with that when she gets home from work!!!

 

fail big time write to the vosa and complain

 

my guess would be that they hung the weight of the suspension on the hoses,while they changed the bushes,but the hoses could not have been in good condition for this to happen.
they should fail a mot,but the garage is unlikely to tell you about them,as they would have to pay for the repair.bad news sending the car out like that.

 

yea cheers mate, like i say chances are it wouldnt have been like that and probably passed fine which means whoever fitted the bushes after there must have damaged them when fitting the new bushes cos theres no mention of wear or advisorys for perishing to the pipes.

But obviously if they say they didnt damage them when fitting the bushes and theres no way 2 weeks of driving would have caused 2 hoses to split like that then the mot will be bought into it as like i say 2 weeks of driving wont split 2 hoses in the same place for no reason!!

 

defo i fail,but it will be hard to prove they were split at the time i test

 

Yea was kinda thinkin the same, also got the dispute that they are said they greased the new bushes they fitted but the bleed nipples that u use 2 do it are both snapped off so either damaged them too or didnt bother greaseing them in the first place!!

 

Yea cheers mate, dispute is gonna be they must have been damaged after the MOT when whoever that works there fitted the bushes rather than the mot itself as i doubt they would risk loosing their licence or a fine over something that obvious!! just wanted to know if that was a fail or not incase they turn round and say its not an MOT failure and was fine hence asking their obviosly old as the cars a j plate but theres no mention from them or the mot place before about any signs of wear or perishing on the pipes!! so as said was prob done from the arms being left hanging/twisted while the bushes got changed.

 

yer mate defo worth it i am sure they will replace them as they will not want the hassle from vosa etc

 

you might be better going to trading standards as you have paid for work that hasnt been done which is fraud.trading standards will advise you wether or not to contact vosa.
you can bet the garage says the pipes were ok at time of test which is the standard cop out.

 

Yeah bend them over and let them take it, wankers!!