attend a non rs owners national day, but to attend on the rs owners visiting club stand, to say a show like trax....... how does this work?????

 

Sure you need to be a member to have your car on a stand at a regional day hosted by an rsoc club and think the same stands for national day. shows like trax etc, should not really matter as there not hosted by the rsoc.

 

is there actually going to be a national day this year?

 

there'll be quite a few people who cant attend then if this is the case... just cause you go to your local meet it doesnt follow that your a rsoc paid up member....

 

At the last rsoc agm, the committee decided that to attend a regional day you had to be a national rsoc member.(how this will be enforced i have no idea) Forcing local group members to join the main club.
However if a local group would like to attend ,Trax, ford fair ect then as it aint under the rsoc banner anyone can attend.
I personaly dont agree as it was never put to the local groups and voted on.

 

surely this will encourage more splinter groups, so we'll end up with more groups with less people in.. surely this should have been voted in, after all, whats the point in having committee meetings etc if rules can be made or broken by individuals?????
is this a ploy of the rsoc to raise membership levels???? maybe they shouldnt have voted about 8 local groups out in the last couple of years... and maybe an improved national day may encourage membership!!!

 

Yeah totaly agree you with our rs club got voted out last year cause we had not attended their AGM for the last 3 years

 

They stopped local groups charging a fee and as said basicaly forced people to join the main club. As you say tone , it is as easy to go with a visiting car club. If it boosts the rsoc membership , who knows?
AS for groups being voted out, well there have to be rules and it isnt hard to get one person to a LGM/agm once every couple of years? and that is voted on by local groups

 

you been round alex to much tony your starting to moan like him

 

Why are so many RS owners so anti RSOC?

You was happy to pay a local group fee every month , but so against paying to join the RSOC

why?

 

the reason i got the needle with the rsoc's structure and rules etc is, they insisted people should join the rsoc..... which we did.. and then they boot the regional club out...(A few pissed off people who felt like someone had just had them over!!) ... which could have been advoided with a bit of organization, and when it had happened there was a half hearted verbal appology, but by then it was too late.

 

 

As far as i'm aware the person attending the local group agm/full agm is allowed to claim a certain amount of expenses........so its not like someone would be out of pocket.

I'd have thought all these folk with great ideas how the club should be run would be champing at the bit to go to the agm to have their say!!!!!!


Some folk are never happy!

 

Gave up on RSOC and similar ages ago... too much infighting and people brown nosing.

But in my opinion you should be a member - support the club....

In my opinion without the club there wouldn't be half as many RS's on the roads, there wouldn't be half the following there is and Ford probably wouldn't have raised the badge again....

 

maybe we should start a sporting fords group without all the silly rules not that im a member of any lol im just into the cars not the t shirt and the sticker

 

I am not moaning i was told by the main RSOC that we were exempt from attending the AGM so i spoke to Dave Easton on the matter and still to this day no reply

I am also a member of the main RSOC have so for many years

 

i am a member of the rsoc,i dont realy use it that much,dont use their insurance sceme dont really go on the forum etc!will i renew my membership when its up,of course i will to help keep the club going

 

that sounds about right!!!! lol

 

theres loads of clubs about like that tho

 

and here we go again

 

You can attend any show you like WITHOUT being an RSOC mamber

BUT,, You cant go on a club stand or get the cheaper entrace fee

 

 

Clive thats totaly wrong

You do NOT have to be a member to attend , You DO have to be a member to be on a RSOC local group stand

And i think this is spot on , why should them who dont / wont join the club reep the benefits

 

picky twat , you know wat i meant.

We will have to agree to dissagree on the other point, peoples hands have been forced.

So what is your oppinion of any car you like on agroup stand(providing your a member) , be it RS or shopping trolly??

 

Not picky , saying people cant ATTEND is totaly different than can attend

People should not be charged to join a local group , you pay to join the main club

local groups should not charge and stop people paying to join the main club by giving none members the same benefits as paying members

 

paul, i agree with you, but you cant tell me that everyone who attends a local meet is a fully paid up rsoc member???? so it'll mean they either join or dont go along to a show and show support for their local club. i know of a club with about 20-25 members, of who only 8 or 10 are members

 

well if there told they cant be a local group member without joining the main club they either pay and support the main club or the bugger off , if they dont want to join the main club why do they then want the benefits

 

Paul you know the reason we had a joining fee, it was to get a kitty together to possily stage a show. That int goingto hapen now.
For established groups that aint a problem, but we can live with it.

But the second point what you aint made comment on is wank in my oppinion, as a show organiser , so to say . Would you be happy to bill your show as an rs owners show , only then for the paying public to see stands with non Rs cars on, as that is what the main club are condoning??
Would be interested on yours and Scotts thoughts .If we booked a stand and didnt turn up with an Rs in sight you presumably wouldnt be happt

 

I agree Clive , I dont want to see other cars than RS on a club stand

But , If somone is a paying member and there RS is of the road for repairs etc , they still want to be inside the show and with there group

Its a tough one mate , But i honestly dont want to see none RS cars on club stands if im totaly honest

As for your " kitty " our group raised money for our first show without charging a fee to join our club

you need sponsors mate ,

 

Holly shit, how glad am i that i dont bother about this shit anymore, i mean seriously its so childish its unreal


I was into fords well before i new about groups or clubs, i regular atended track days and events with my car but didnt join any group or club.

I was into fords for the cars not some geeky clown club that says you can and cant do something

If i want to go to a track day i`ll go, i dont need permision from some comitee

Its one thing i will not miss from the ford world, shame really as there great cars its just the bummed up twats that own them sometimes that ruin it

 

You dont need permission mate and you never have

You just cant go on a club stand , and as you hate the club so much i dont see that being a problem to you

 

unfortunately in our area the shows are pretty much sown up , with Croft around the corner and the pickering show . Cant see another show fitting in to be honest , we will have to continue being the poor neighbours lol.

 

But good neighbours mate

 

I never said that paul, im just saying that there so many do`s and donts that its very off putting

 

i agree with what your saying,.
But in the reality of it if you have a group of people in exsess of 4k and no rules it would be carnage , as in anything , you make of it what you can.
I too like to do atrack day and go to a show, put prefer to do it with a group of freinds, if that means i have to put up with a few rules then i can live with it , not totaly agree with it but wont let is spoil my fun.

 

You said some quite nasty things mate " geeky clown club " etc so wrongly presumed you wernt a fan of the club

And the " do"s and donts " are only there realy mate tp protect the paying member from the spungers

 

I honestly cant see any problems about joining the RSOC

some people want to go to local group meets but dont want to join the RSOC

Same people want to go to RSOC shows, put their car on a group stand but dont want to join the RSOC

they want all the same things as a paid up member and obviously want to be a part of the group but wont pay out to join....why

 

If we ever got a SERIOUS answer to that mate ill show my are in burtons window


I dont understand it either , its not like it hundreds of pounds to join , and even if you dont like some of the rules or some of the people its no differance to anything else in life so why worry , just get out of it what you enjoy and forget the rest

 

so does this mean no visiting car clubs at nat day (non rsoc clubs)i mean lol
there was non rsoc clubs a every show i went to last year? can local groups afford to say no,i dont think so just the nat clubs latest fubar how will they police it lol they cant even keep members they have without alienating even more,with membership down and club funds down they are certainly going the wrong way about things "again"

must admit i recently renewed my membership but at the same time stood down as chairman of my group because of the hypocrites that sit at the top table and there my way or the highway attitude.

 

Visiting car clubs are allowed Tony

All the club are doing is trying to stop none members getting the same benefits as none members

Did anyone from your group attend the AGM ?

Only reason i ask is that it seems as tho many local groups dont seem to know the answers to things that were openly discussed at the AGM