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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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May seem a silly question, but I don't know much about electronic boost controllers...is it worth getting one rather than using an amal valve? What are the advantages, and what can they do extra??

What ones would you suggest?

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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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far better boost control!specially if running high boost!i put twin air injectors on my sapp and had a pectal board fitted with adjustable boost control!brillaint mod!
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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I don't like the fact that if air injectors fail, you get unlimited boost
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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thats true but i think anyone with half a brain cell would realise something is wrong before it went bang lol!
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I don't like the fact that if air injectors fail, you get unlimited boost
Feel the rush lol

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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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how much is a air injector set-up?
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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I don't know Doug, these things can happen very quickly!

Not worth doing a rebuild tho is it Steve
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Originally Posted by James90RS
I don't know Doug, these things can happen very quickly!

Not worth doing a rebuild tho is it Steve
So true

One of the reasons im still on a amal valve

Im also too tight to pay for the air injector set up lol

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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Air injecots are about £250, but you can get boost controllers for similar money??
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No idea, im too tight to do it

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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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Great help
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Pleased to have helped lol

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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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air injector set up from scratch will cost around £450!thats including having the adjustable boost control
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air injectors seldom fail they are fundamentally just a high flow fuel injector and I'd be more worried about a fuel injector fail and the resulting damage than the damge a failed air injector could cause.
most proper boost controllers use pneumatic shuttle valves and work by bleed on control as per air injectors and not bleed off as per amul valve
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
air injectors seldom fail they are fundamentally just a high flow fuel injector and I'd be more worried about a fuel injector fail and the resulting damage than the damge a failed air injector could cause.
most proper boost controllers use pneumatic shuttle valves and work by bleed on control as per air injectors and not bleed off as per amul valve

They are in actual fact a CNG injector, how they will cope under hard use etc I wouldn't like to say, nothing wrong with amal valve.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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fitted a blitz duel sbc spec r controller to my saph, great bit of kit got 3 settings which can be set any any pacentage, realy easy to use / set up aswell, its very basic to some of the controllers on the market but it does all i need it to
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an amul valve has a maximum frequency of 25htz and is ok for a standard car
air injectors are wrc
originally the bosh ones used back in the earlly 90's were designed by bosh for the turbo f1 cars
you cannot accurately control turbine shaft speed with a cheap plastic valve

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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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mmm id rather trust my boost control on two very simple air injectors controlled by one computer than having a totally seperate from ECU computer (ie boost controller) controlling the boost through a single valve.

At least with air injectors youve got two of them (redundancy) and if the ecu goes tits up then the engine dies totally. Plus Id imagine if youve got a good ecu you could set up a LOS for when it detects a boost anomoly and keep things safe that way.

Where as with a boost controller if it goes tits up the engine pretty much carrys on as normal til it says byebye.
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