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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Default S1 Escort - ST170 fitment.

Thinking of buying a S1 escort however am thinking of going with a ST170 engine and keeping NA.

Has anyone fitted a st170 into a S1 and what have you done with regard to the engine mount?

Undecided on what box to use though too

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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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Sure there is a guy who was working at sitech, or a customer who had a mk3 with an st170 engine that was featured in FF? Worth a search on here. It was for sale
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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Why would you want to take out a turbo'd lump and put a non turbo'd engine in?

Or are you buying the S1 without running gear? still would stick a turbo'd lump in it even just for value reasons
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
Sure there is a guy who was working at sitech, or a customer who had a mk3 with an st170 engine that was featured in FF? Worth a search on here. It was for sale
Simon who owns Sitech had a turbo'd ST170 engine in his S2 at one point, but it was written off at Knockhill recently.
He has done a lot of great work and various engines to mk3 Escorts belonging to Ade(Fast Ford photographer) off here. Maybe worth a pm.
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Seems a strange idea mate? Turbo'ing one would be great though
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Originally Posted by stucos71
Simon who owns Sitech had a turbo'd ST170 engine in his S2 at one point, but it was written off at Knockhill recently.
He has done a lot of great work and various engines to mk3 Escorts belonging to Ade(Fast Ford photographer) off here. Maybe worth a pm.
The car was a white mk3 with a na st170 engine and s1 kit ( i think? ) with 16i stripes on side and bonnet

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Agreed it is a strange idea going from its original cvh turbo lump.
However I have one turbo car and that gets all the treats so this is to be just used the odd weekend.

I want something that can be fitted and forgotten about so to speak and a standard st170 engine would offer the best of both worlds for me.
The reliability being the major factor and 170hp would be fine for a nice road spec car. Everything else would remain standard.

I have the option to purchase a pretty mint S1 with 86000 miles from new, full history, 15 trophies etc..
The owner is contemplating splitting the car also, so I can purchase as a whole or less the engine running gear, the saving there would pay for the st170 setup

Like you say though, should it be just kept as Ford intended, breakdown and rebuild every 6 months
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
The car was a white mk3 with a na st170 engine and s1 kit ( i think? ) with 16i stripes on side and bonnet
i know what you mean, will try and find a link
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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i can understand him really. admittedly i'm not really a fan of turbo's. i like wacking great sets of carbs and superchargers. you have to admit the st170 engine will be a lot more reliable than the cvh turbo with the same bhp. and the engine is probably i tad stronger.
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Mondeo Man that the one you were thinking of? https://passionford.com/forum/restor...ort-rs170.html
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jammerrs
Mondeo Man that the one you were thinking of? https://passionford.com/forum/restor...ort-rs170.html
Spot on.
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good idea, but get it on throttle bodies
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Mine has one in, but it's turbo'd. Oh, and an S2 lol but same shell in practice.
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in regards to mount same is needed as your fez one but done on the mk3 escort one
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick
Mine has one in, but it's turbo'd. Oh, and an S2 lol but same shell in practice.
Can you show me a few pics of the engine bay please
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rst in breaking
in regards to mount same is needed as your fez one but done on the mk3 escort one

Mine is a Fiesta rs1800 engine mount in the Fes.

Whats exactly needed for the s1 then
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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i kinda agree with tim


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Originally Posted by supramat2000
i can understand him really. admittedly i'm not really a fan of turbo's. i like wacking great sets of carbs and superchargers. you have to admit the st170 engine will be a lot more reliable than the cvh turbo with the same bhp. and the engine is probably i tad stronger.
not a fan of turbos?????? my god your a strange man
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Originally Posted by AquariousRS
Luke your an idiot. That is all
+ 1, and i would hate you too

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Ill leave that to your wifey



the white s1 was pretty clean..although it could have done with a polish!
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Originally Posted by Luca
Mine is a Fiesta rs1800 engine mount in the Fes.

Whats exactly needed for the s1 then
its a doddle, pretty self explanitary when you see the mount, offer the series one mount against the zetec block then you need to weld a piece in the corner the drill a hole to pick up a third finxing
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Originally Posted by rst in breaking
its a doddle, pretty self explanitary when you see the mount, offer the series one mount against the zetec block then you need to weld a piece in the corner the drill a hole to pick up a third finxing
funny as this sounds paul i made one tonight
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The Uk's first NA RS TURBO????? WHY WHY WHY


Go down the Base Model way & build it up or RS1600i
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Personally if its a car to use for a blast, i'd not do a series one. Especially one that sounds like a very nice car?

It'd be far easier and probably cheaper to do it to a mk5/6 escort. Plus you then have the easy fitment of an MTX75 box
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Originally Posted by gus
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i kinda agree with tim

Gus I just want to be like you, Im even eating out most nights, who needs the gym when you have Ronald McDonald on your team!


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the white s1 was pretty clean..although it could have done with a polish!
It would be rude to let him split it! + your only end up driving it maybe!



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The Uk's first NA RS TURBO????? WHY WHY WHY


Go down the Base Model way & build it up or RS1600i
Been thinking hard about this last few days, I think I will be keeping it CVH turbo and placing it back to original spec.
Will speak with the owner tonight and see what the score is.

EFI though or MFI thats todays dilemma ??
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Originally Posted by Luca
It would be rude to let him split it! + your only end up driving it maybe!

Been thinking hard about this last few days, I think I will be keeping it CVH turbo and placing it back to original spec.
Will speak with the owner tonight and see what the score is.

EFI though or MFI thats todays dilemma ??
well then EFI it is!!
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Dont do it luke it will just end up another money pit the money you will spend you could buy a standard s1 that you could keep that way & use for pottering about in good weather! Why put a st170 engine in a s1 ? it would still be a crime to use it in the wet is the car is mint. Best just keep the cash you would have spent & use your bmw
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Originally Posted by carlo
Dont do it luke it will just end up another money pit the money you will spend you could buy a standard s1 that you could keep that way & use for pottering about in good weather! Why put a st170 engine in a s1 ? it would still be a crime to use it in the wet is the car is mint. Best just keep the cash you would have spent & use your bmw
Hello mate, how you been keeping?

Im hearing you loud and clear, Im just fearful of those rattling bean tin cvh engines.
If its standard bar the car, chip and intercooler LOL hopefully it will survive some spirited Sunday drives.

Beemer is too granddad spec! BUT its practical, tows the Fiesta, is ultra reliable (bar the power steering pump) and is super comfy on long drives.

S1 just looks ace!



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cvh's arent that bad if they are running sendible power & not driven like a tit. But if you hava old cvh done more miles than the moon & trying to run over 200 bhp then it goes without saying. If you buy the right car in the first place then you will be able to use it in the nice days with no worrys. Trust me i did with my s1 it wasnt fast but felt great just pottering about knowing it was mint. Im fine mate you? wont see you at the weekend i will be in las vegas , hard life aint it
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1231549.htm

My old s1 pics & write up dont do it justice i sold it for £7500 proper mint car i sold it because it was too good to use inderside was as good as the outside
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Originally Posted by carlo
cvh's arent that bad if they are running sendible power & not driven like a tit. But if you hava old cvh done more miles than the moon & trying to run over 200 bhp then it goes without saying. If you buy the right car in the first place then you will be able to use it in the nice days with no worrys. Trust me i did with my s1 it wasnt fast but felt great just pottering about knowing it was mint. Im fine mate you? wont see you at the weekend i will be in las vegas , hard life aint it

All is good mate thanks

Oooh check you out!

Ok you win on that one, Las Vegas IS a winnner!!!!



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Originally Posted by dingla rs
not a fan of turbos?????? my god your a strange man
I am mate. we are all different, I like big V6's and twin carbs and stuff. but i think my problem with turbo's is that i dont really know anything about them.. i think they work by witchcraft don't they????
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Originally Posted by hevangel
well then EFI it is!!
Get your overalls on then we have a new project

Originally Posted by carlo
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1231549.htm

My old s1 pics & write up dont do it justice i sold it for £7500 proper mint car i sold it because it was too good to use inderside was as good as the outside
That car is a GEM mate! Im going to keep it cvh now for sure
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
Sure there is a guy who was working at sitech, or a customer who had a mk3 with an st170 engine that was featured in FF? Worth a search on here. It was for sale
Yeah it was me! lol
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