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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Afternoon all,

Been on a mad rush trying to get my S1 back on the road b4 winter sets in(just want to drive it and have fun)..

After a couple of very very long weekends and up the garage till at 3am. Arguments with the missus. Come on you all know where i'm coming from..

After sorting the disco light, new suspensions, calipers fully refurbed (professionally) then normal rust bug probs, i've now been hit with no brakes. Have now pulled thur over 5 liters of brake fluid, changed the servo and put in 2 mastercylinders no leaks anywhere and yep still got no bloody brakes.

Apart from renewing every pipe does anyone have any suggestions..
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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when you say no brakes, what are you looking at? both front and rear? did you bleed the rears with the the load compensators under load?
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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iirc series 1 doesn't have rear load valves like s2,

try clamping all the brake hoses with brake hose clamps, if you then get a decent pedal then remove the clamps 1 at a time when the pedal goes crap again thats the corner your fault lies

Are the rear brake shoes correctly adjusted?

can you give any more info of the spec of brakes and the fault?
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by studabear
iirc series 1 doesn't have rear load valves like s2,
forgot about that
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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maybe the black pipe that goes from the servo to the inlet is faulty?
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Guys..
1st of all the spec is Cossie Four pots front & Cossie rears.
Now for the symptoms:- Bleed brakes while engine not running get a peddle almost 3/4's of the way up. Start engine peddle completely goes, pump up the peddle and the brakes come back but only 1/4 peddle (hence why i've change the Servo (Once) and the Master cylinder (TWICE).... The brakes work(ish) wouldnt want to drive it like it and def wouldnt pass a MOT.. Went up garage last nite and pumped the peddle almost got a full peddle(engine not running, thinking of taking it for a spin round block 2nite to see what happens) but has a very strange squeak/hiss noise when fully under pressure but still no fluid leaking anywhere????
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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ive had a bit bother with my s1 aswell.. i originally had the brake pipes conected to the wrong outlet on the master cylinder..the brakes worked slightly but only when the pedal was right down
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Cheers dangerous,

Its def something to consider cause onvisously i just took it that the pipes where correct when i replaced the master cylinder etc..

Def something to think about and poss try..
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have a look at this

https://passionford.com/forum/ford-e...-cylinder.html

stuart

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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 05:41 PM
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Is that a Capri 2.9i Twin Turbo?????

Pics???? Spec????

If so........

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Originally Posted by Mk1 Mex
Guys..
1st of all the spec is Cossie Four pots front & Cossie rears.
Now for the symptoms:- Bleed brakes while engine not running get a peddle almost 3/4's of the way up. Start engine peddle completely goes, pump up the peddle and the brakes come back but only 1/4 peddle (hence why i've change the Servo (Once) and the Master cylinder (TWICE).... The brakes work(ish) wouldnt want to drive it like it and def wouldnt pass a MOT.. Went up garage last nite and pumped the peddle almost got a full peddle(engine not running, thinking of taking it for a spin round block 2nite to see what happens) but has a very strange squeak/hiss noise when fully under pressure but still no fluid leaking anywhere????
clamp all the flexi's and see if the pedal goes good,

Also are the rear calipers mounted in such a way that all the bleed nipples are at the highest point ensuring the air comes out when bleeding them

Also can the front 4 pots be fited on the wrong side so that the bleed nipples are at the bottom, this would give you a big airlock inside the caliper
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