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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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hi fellas,

have an odd problem with an 04 2.0 diesel fwd transit.

sometimes it just cuts out randomly and then sometimes will start up again and other times it will just turn over with the heater plug light flashing.

sometimes it can run for a couple of days without fault and others it can do it every 10 seconds or so.ive pulled the engine loom plug apart and all the connections are clean etc.
the scanner is showing up 3 wiring probs,injection pump module x2 and crank sensor.as they were all connection/wiring issues i thought it may have been the multi plug?

is there any common faults on these vans-ie crank sensor etc?

thanks in advance
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Blacky was a transit tech up untill not so long ago.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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if yours is common rail then it could be usual problem as of tdci's ie cam sensor or on transits the fuel pumps fail causing injectors to block up.fuel filter housings are also common on those
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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cam sensor, has it a ford fuel filter Jay?
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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arent these the ones with coded injectors? famous for doing it, does the light on dash start flashing?

sometimes they can be recoded but other times new injectors needed and they aint cheap!
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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sounds similar to what mine was doing, mine ended up being a faulty accelerator pedal believe it or not, as it all electronic now

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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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ask here

http://fordtransit.org/forum/
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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timing chain will be stretched causing a timing fault between the crank. Cam & fuel pump
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by blacky.
timing chain will be stretched causing a timing fault between the crank. Cam & fuel pump
that doesnt sound good!
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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cam sensor, has it a ford fuel filter Jay?
yes it has a ford one fitted.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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frustrating thing is it can run ok for a few days,then suddenly play up......and its very random!

when it does it,if the heater plug light goes off it will fire up-sometimes for an hour,a few days or a few seconds.but if the heater plug light is flashing it will not fire up.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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look into what i said
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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as said Jay it might need a ecu update quite commen
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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who does the recodes on them-is it ford only?
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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my transit does the exact same thing jay and has been doin for the last 3 years ,never had it looked at so if you get it fixed would you post the fix up here .
all i do when it happens is turn the key back one notch and back to the on position and the light goes out .it happens on mine when you lift your foot off the throtttle when you are preparing to stop.so it makes me think it may be a throttle /accelerator pedal.my van is 03 and 60,000 miles.

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james thats unusual, normally they get gradually worse, until the point of you can go anywere as it constantly does it and they will not restart for while
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Originally Posted by utternutter
james thats unusual, normally they get gradually worse, until the point of you can go anywere as it constantly does it and they will not restart for while

i will have a look into recoding the injectors mate ,how much are a new set as i have a second complete engine with 20k miles ,could i use the injectors off that.

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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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the various faults we have had in ours are:

split intercooler pipework
split fuel pump diaphrams
faulty egr valves (one van was VOR for 2 months bceause they couldn't get enough apaprently)
broken engine mounts

all the above caused the same problems you've described with the lflashy lights on the dash and lose of power etc

we've also had a shockingly high amount of driveshafts let go
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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the new transits are just terrible to be honest, its such a shame as the older ones are superb they made britain, then they went and fucked it all up. its kinda like the rover headgasket thing, they still sell as most are not aware of the horrific problems they have, my bro in law is constantly doing boxs and chain kits etc, sedning ecus off to be repaired
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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I have had a couple of these play up. Check the wiring loom for the pump where it goes past the starter motor.A couple of times i have seen the loom damaged here. It`s worth a look.
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Originally Posted by dojj
the various faults we have had in ours are:

split intercooler pipework
split fuel pump diaphrams
faulty egr valves (one van was VOR for 2 months bceause they couldn't get enough apaprently)
broken engine mounts

all the above caused the same problems you've described with the lflashy lights on the dash and lose of power etc

we've also had a shockingly high amount of driveshafts let go

dojj when you say a loss of power do you mean their is absolutley zero response from the throttle.


cheers james
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
who does the recodes on them-is it ford only?

afriad so mate
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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give these guys a ring there excellent at fixing diesels
http://www.wheatleamotors.co.uk/index.html
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Originally Posted by james kiely
dojj when you say a loss of power do you mean their is absolutley zero response from the throttle.


cheers james
yes mate, you put your foot down and nothing, and then bang, it all comes in one big hit and ther eis loads of black smoke chucked out the back

it's normally the intercooler rubber pipes that split and ford have replacements that are more canvas than rubber which seem to have solved the problem, but the egr valves would throw the engine manegment light on everytime you gave it more than about half throttle and then it would go into limp home mode until you turned the engine off and restarted it again, then they've clear the fault and thigns ouwld be back to normal, until you gave it more than about half throttle again

and the engine mounts would play havoc with the whole thing, almost as if the bototm of the engine was about to fall out when you pulled away, and then you've have no power but no lights, almost as if the pedal wasn't connected

we've had these problems with the vito's we had with the fly bt wire throttle but when the vans have gone to ford they've always said that it was an engine mount that was cauisng the troulbes, but never explain more than that
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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cheers dojj i will check the intercooler pipes and mounts in the morning,but to tell you the truth i bought the van new and its six years old shortly with 60k and its still on original tyres ,changed pads at 55k and other than this the van has been faultless
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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we are lucky to see 20k from a tyre, most go in around teh 15k mark
our's eat brake discs and pads too

we've got the 90 bhp versions

the cooler pipes will be the rubber wobbly ones to and from the cooler that sit above the engine mate, they should have 3 metal rings around them and these tend to cause the splits an then youhave an engine bay absolutly covered in oil

and finally, who the hell designed the washer filler bottle neck
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