a friend of mines friend said he has just bought a 4x4 rs turbo he said there were only 200 made and im not too sure just thaught id ask u lot

 

i have never heard of one...........but i am sure someone will have a more definate answer

 

There is an old thread on here discussing the exact thing on whether they were put into production,hopefully someone will put a link.Is it white lol ?.

 

Probably an RS 2000 4x4.

 

Collins made some S2,s with RS2000 running gear.

 

well i dont know myself but they were adement it was a rs turbo and they said there was 200 made

 

I bet its a mk5 rs2000 with a RST engine in it.

Or a camel or something else equally not a 4wd rst

 

could possibly be a gartrac shell made up into a s2 ,

or a converted shell , and someones filled hes head with shite about it being limited numbers ,


beef

 

He is wrong, ford did NOT make 200 4wd rs turbos, absolutely definately NOT

 

I have read about a 4wd conversion kit ford started to develop for the rs turbo, dont think it ever made it past the development stage tho.

 

i think he payed big money for it ill have to find out this weekend

 

you know what ford are like they some times try things out on old cars as a mule for a new one

 

Make sure that next time he is looking for a car you let me know mate

 

Ford did make _some_ 4wd escort rs turbo's, but certainly not 200!!

 

really?id love to see one.

 

Not for general sale, just develpoment hacks, would have been ordered to be chopped up as couldnt have been sold, 1 or 2 may of survived but seems unlikely it would turn up now and if it did you would NOT be able to prove where it came from anyway of course as would have no v5

 

Indeed.

 

 

Like I posted about Collins,I believe they made 12 or 16 of them.I know they did a 4x4 conversion running Cosworth management supposedly 200 bhp.Never heard about Ford making 200 of them.If that was the case I am sure more would have surfaced by now.

 

ford was developing 4x4 running gear on the mk4 escorts for the prototype escose im sure. there was a thread on rsoc & an old thread on here about it. non went on sale & were scrapped when the development finished.

 

probably bullshitting me ill find out hopefully this weekend if our lass lets me go the pub.loll

 

yes i put all the info on this on here

yes it was true but im still trying to track down who own's the factory built s2 i think there was only 3 ever made

there was 200 shells that were made but got crushed, the 4x4 idea come then for the rs2000 and the escort cos

 

chip thay did mate but not 200 of them

im very intrested in what the reg is

 

Shells created and used in development, is not the same as making cars mate.

They didnt sell 200 4wd rs turbos to the general public, which is what this lad seems to think

 

o.k but thay did still make around 3 of them and sold them on one was g reg

 

I seem to remember a 4x4 RST being in the "100 greatest fords" issue of Performance Ford, but as said above, wasnt Ford production model.

 

Would be great to get the reg and do a dvla check to see what it was registered as, especially as it wouldnt have had type approval to be legal for sale, so would have to have gone in as something different on the logbook to a normal one I would imagine, although I dont know how different the law was back then as the current SVA system for stuff like that has only been in place since 1998.

 

no that was on a q plate buddy

chip the reg has been posted on my topic some time ago it hasent been taxed for some time

i will find link now for you to have a read

 

Nice one mate

 

found link mate but if i copy and paste it may not link to it can you sort it

one was last on the road in 2004 i think it was the only one there was an e reg but never had tax may be its in a lock up some where

 

try this

https://passionford.com/forum/general-car-related-discussion/82770-s2-4x4-fords-secret-escort-remember-this-post.html

 

yes ive done it read that, second page has info

 

sue collins built one for a customer who ended up working there and was built from bits that were gen ford, they turned up in breakers yard along with 16v zeta ( thats the proper name for a 16v mk5 escort engine) and other stuff.

the car was brand fire new and nearly ended up on a q but the owner who was a bit of a fart put pressure on the vro and got it greg'ed.

i saw the car, it wasn't any differant looking exept a set of Revolutions ( Rs Baz's favourite wheel , sorry Baz ) in white and the fun stuff underneath.

there was a 4wd rs1600 i but thats another story

 

you twat pmsl thay did look wank im telling you

 

Cozzfather,I know you know your onions I was under the impression that Collins made 12 or 16 of em.Two of my mates owned a white G plate S2 built by collins with white revolutions on it which should have been 4x4 but the transfer box was shot,He even got on the front cover of Fast Ford I think it was.You reckon they only built one ?.

 

one what orion or s2 ?????

thay never did orions

 

onions as in knowing a bit about things,not a orion .Yes S2.

 

i think there was a couple knocking about circa 1990-91, i never heard that sue did 16 ish though but definately one, the parts were not complete and various parts needed specialist manufacturers help to produce what was required.

i even remember the original owner of the g reg collins escort 4x4 rs turbo's name its john bridget or bridget the midget.
its all in my memory bank, now whats the crack about onions,thats the second time someones mentioned onions to this evening.


there was another cosworth tuner back in the good old days when i was starting out learning my onions and it was called Greenlight, it was in London and the bloke who ran it was called Gerrade Sauer, he was well into motorsport stuff and wrote for iirc car and car conversions as well as being a cosworth tuner,he did a rs1600i in met blue for a customer who was rallying it,that car came from another ford specialist who could not complete the car due to not all the transmision parts being available, the car had a lot of the bits that sue collins had. in them days there was a ford specialist who managed to get hold of stuff ford was developing and secrertly using but wasn't availablr through main dealers parts departments.
one other example was one of the first 16v zeta engines that later became known as zetec got banned from ford racing (vecta fast fords don't ya know) due to the engine not being available from ford to buy yet the scrap yard had them in for sale.
it was in a escort rs turbo and the head iirc was on the cvh block back in oooh 1991 before the mk5's got 16v's.
ford got bummed by lancia for using a name they owned the copyright for so the engine then go called zetec,course to me its a zeta still init

 

Anyhoo onions an all lol.The one I was on about a local guy with his own repair/tuning garage had it and it come with the transfer box (knackered) in the boot.He sold it to a lad from southport who had the magazine feature done.I believe it got wrote off,it must have been back in about 96ish.I will get an answer to this,the first guy does a day or two at collins now.I will go to his own place and speak to him.