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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Has anyone fitted the Safety Devices cage to a Mk3/4 Escort, particularly a non-sunroof one?

The rear half is in, but its slightly over to one side. It's closer to the Pillar on the drivers side than it is on the passenger side. Others I have seen are like this, but now I have come to fit the front section, it touches the body all the way round the top of the door on the drivers side and I can't really see any way to sort it without cutting/rewelding.

I expected some irregularity with it being a pre-built cage, but this is a bit more than I imagined.

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its not safety devices' fault, its a shonky old ford at the end of the day

blame them!


sorry, no real relevance to this post, i'll skulk back the muppet room
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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It actually looks as though Safety Devices tried too hard to get the cage close to the car and left no margin for error at all.
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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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fitted one of these to my series 2 ( rip ) last year and it was an absolute asrehole

mine was very tight all round and basically had to be shoe horned together

not much help to you though..

hope you get it sorted mate
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thats the idea --------close fit!------needs to be as one with the shell -multi point fixed also.
--------------- first one you have fitted then!
not to sound stupid but you have removed the seats.
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thats the idea --------close fit!------needs to be as one with the shell -multi point fixed also.
--------------- first one you have fitted then!
not to sound stupid but you have removed the seats.
Whole interior is out, dash/seats/carpets/trim, the lot.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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Sorry i cant help but can we have pics?
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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heard this before i guess they use a jig and the jig gets old,be worth a phonecall to them,heard o some1 haven this prob and sd sorted it
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as the living legend Aaroncast says,its supposed to be a close fit, my mates who have built wrc cars and group a cars sometimes take the roof off and put it back again,and i know rally teams who cut holes in the floor and put them back in again.
i have seen rollcages so tight even on a new build the cage can be seen pushing against the roof skin when you catch the light across the skin
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as the living legend Aaroncast says,its supposed to be a close fit, my mates who have built wrc cars and group a cars sometimes take the roof off and put it back again,and i know rally teams who cut holes in the floor and put them back in again.
i have seen rollcages so tight even on a new build the cage can be seen pushing against the roof skin when you catch the light across the skin
As anyone that saw the fitting of the cage in Gary's Evo will know, we are fully aware of the lengths that it is necessary to go to to get a competition cage to fit. However, by Safety Devices own admission, this cage is intended to fit a road-car with full trim.

I never expected it to be perfect, but I didn't expect to have to put a pry bar between the cage and the pillar to get the front section in, then releasing the bar will leave the cage hard against that pillar.
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i've seen one fitted to a pug 106 and the guy needed ratchet straps to pull it in whilst he fitted it in the car.
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Is there no way of changing the position of the rear cage? I've never seen one in an escort so i dont know how they mount.
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yeah my old one, i pulled the legs in with rope to get it in
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Originally Posted by gus
yeah my old one, i pulled the legs in with rope to get it in
ditto
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The legs are right at the bottom. I will climb in and try and take some pics.
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slowly going off the cage idea now lol
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mine was an absolute mare!

took 2 of us about an hour n half to get the front section in, with lots of tilting the rear cage back, fitting 1 front side, then removing, then trying the other, then trying the front crossbar, then repeating.....

in the end i had the drivers side so hard up against the roof it started to push the door rubber off, and even getting the retaining bolts through was a slag as u struggle to get a spanner on either end to tighten them up!!!

id like to say its worth it but......

lol
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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Hi Christian,I have an OMP cage in mine,and while it was a tight fit,me and a mate got it in within an hour.Not much help to you,but this bit of advice maybe will.Make sure you have the doors fitted,I didnt,and it was a bastard to get to the back of hinge bolts when we got around to refitting the doors,because the poxy front legs of the cage where in the way!!!!All the best fitting the cage,hope you get it in,regards,Micky
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Has anyone fitted the Safety Devices cage to a Mk3/4 Escort, particularly a non-sunroof one?

The rear half is in, but its slightly over to one side. It's closer to the Pillar on the drivers side than it is on the passenger side. Others I have seen are like this, but now I have come to fit the front section, it touches the body all the way round the top of the door on the drivers side and I can't really see any way to sort it without cutting/rewelding.

I expected some irregularity with it being a pre-built cage, but this is a bit more than I imagined.

i had the same problem when i fitted one to my old car it touch on the passenger side rpund the top of the door i think it must be a jig fault a factory mate
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who made the cage?
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo-Beal
who made the cage?

The clue is in the title of this thread!!!!!!LOL
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Originally Posted by Turbo-Beal
who made the cage?
The clue is in the title of the thread.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
The clue is in the title of the thread.
My bad.
I had a sparco rollcage and that was awfull. Ended up not using it as i was realy unhappy with the fitment and had to chop it about to even get the thing to remotely fitt.

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I was getting a safety devices cage for the 1600i, kind of put off now! I do need one though....let me know how you get on with it, may need to rethink my options
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mk3stevie
I was getting a safety devices cage for the 1600i, kind of put off now! I do need one though....let me know how you get on with it, may need to rethink my options

OMP mate,a tight fit,BUT it fits,plus it comes with the FIA cert.Regards,Micky
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Christian,

I will give Gordon at ACS a heads up then shall I? LOL

If your that tight its touching why not weld some strength/gusset plates to the pillars? Should stop the noise from rubbing every time you go over a heavy bump.
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Originally Posted by mart rs
slowly going off the cage idea now lol
Lol don't be put off - i'm having one as well

We will get dingy to fit ours, like he did the one in KIA ask what happened when he released the ratchet straps
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Old Sep 3, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Linsay
Lol don't be put off - i'm having one as well

We will get dingy to fit ours, like he did the one in KIA ask what happened when he released the ratchet straps

i dont want to know! lol
if i do im doing it at work in a big workshop with a welder an gas handy, an if all eles fails il take it out into the yard a flatten it with my digger!! lol
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