Well as i am totally new to all this (well talking for my friend) what is needed to achive a nice 200bhp or around that.........

Could you post up your specs please and power output.

would i need these items?

T3
Double Capaticy intercooler

Car has got Alot of headwork done ie P+P Big Valves, Solid Lifters, Kent Cam.

Would uprated fuel pump be any good? if so what one and how much?

What sort of injectors should it be running too?

Also any other things that i should consider?

Engine is currently cvh, not looking to go full Zetec but would possibly cinsider ZVH

Cheers

Tiller

 

you can use either a t2hybrid or a t3
biege injectors will at a max c u 2 about 210 but more realisticly ull c more like 190-200 using a lage frnt mounted intercooler! saying that daveb-lives has achieved 204bhp using a charge cooler!

 

T2 isn't worth a wet a wet wank. Chuck the usless piece of excrement in the skip and get a T3 on there as Ford should have done in the first place.

I have a chrage cooler kit here in need of a good home. if anybody wants it?

 

my t2 hybrid still makes 204bhp at 16psi as daveb-lives aswell! and they spool up alot quicker than the laggy t3s.but then again its alot of wedge for a t2 hybrid really

 

Rollers differ hugely though.

My FRST made 207 at Engine Advantages yet only 167bhp on my mates Dyno Dynamics rollers.

The T3 really isn't noticably more laggy than the T2 at all unless you fit the .48 housing as well (hence why I stuck to the .36). And yes it really is a lot of wedge when you consider that they are pretty delicate and still can't cope with any real boost levels. The turbo is too small so the engine consumes the boost faster than the turbo can produce it. Hence why T2 equipped FRST's always run out of guff once on the roll in 3rd gear onwards

 

i still feel that the t2 hybrid is still a good choice, but do agree its a delicate unit and can only hold 18psi , but then again really howq much boost can a standard t3 hold?

 

It's not just the boost pressure that's the issue but the volume of air it can produce. The T2 at 18psi still can't produce the volume of air required by th engine which is exactly why it's not a good option. The only upside to it is that it doesn't require hacking the car about to get it in. From a performance point of view though you really do need the T3 on there. A better spec'd Hybrid T3 is considerably cheaper than the Hybrid T2.

My standard T3 with 100k miles on it survived 3 years at 18psi and the only reason it died was because a vlave failed and bits went out the exhaust and through the turbo's splines scrapping it.

 

t3 turbo.
beige injectors
195 chip or the like
uprated fuel pump
better intercooler

cant say it will last too long on a standard bottom end tho, especially if its done a few k miles.

so if you defo want 200+ add some low comp pistons to the list along with a rebuild

 

hybrid t2, cossie pump, beige injectors, piper285t2 cam, chargecooler, std compression, original 104000 mile old engine, 16psi
runs proven 14.4 quarters and is still getting quicker,
204bhp with 207 lbs/ft at the fly. this has been proven at engine advantages AND power engineering over a period of 3 years so nothing had changed.
now have a stage 2 box to get the torque down!!
i have not been in a t3'd fiesta, but comparing times in pf then it doesnt seem worthwhile for a t3, the 1/4 times are no quicker, and hassle of changing pipework and relocate battery to fit it all in.
the car still pulls hard in the higher gears but no doubt the t3 will give more power through them.

Just my personal opinion but i wanted to keep the frst as 'standard' as it came out the factory, no not by looks but it came with a t2 and i wanted to keep that.

still fun to chase big motors in a little fiesta

dave

 

You don't need to relocate the battery for the T3, just need to move the rad forward a smidge.

You will do better with a T3 and swapping out the T2 cam will help you no end as well, it's a terrible choice of cam for the FRST.

 

imo the t3 will not improve my low end speed or torque, and i know the frst std cam is just as good, but i have now proved the 285 cam is quicker as john will know! the t3 may get me to 220 bhp but its all about the torque!

 

Sorry fella but my experience tells me otherwise. We'll have to agree to disagree.

 

dave is a legend!! t2 all the way!

 

nice to see you stick to your views and lots of experience
but at the same time your not an arsehole about it like you sometimes come accross on forums.

lots of respect for the wise oranoco

 

I try not to come across as an arsehole at all. Sorry if I have done. I'm passionate about my RS's and like things correct. Bit like Gordon Ramsey but with cars

I don't say what I say to buff peoples ego's if I beleive something to be wrong I will say so. I'd rather be honest than be a yes man.

 

ive got on mine

195 chip
hybrid cossie t3
t2 cam
beige injectors
grs front mount
full exhaust system
-31 collins actuator

now i dont want anyonesaying change this and change that i just want a ball park figure if what people think it will make

 

I have a T3 on mine... on your 14.4 run... what ws your terminal... How good your turbo is will mostly show there... Mines a 14.00 @ 103mph...

x x

 

aw yes shell but from wat i remember from the pod ur not running a 1.6 ! are u??

 

My terminals werw at the 104mph mark amd that was with the 5th injector playing up. Should be quicker once I sort that out.

Will see what my bro's FRST can muster once it's together