WIDEBAND AFR GAUGE what you got and any pic,s.what do you recommend

cheRS stu

 

VEMS (M K has one of these) - I can supply, around £205, has the ability to display EGT with an extra sensor for £60.

Innovate - I use on of these myself.

Both are great.

 

I use Innovate too.........works great,had no problems..

 

Been thinking of one of these,c @b can you supply

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=013

cheeRS stu

 

I have the innovate too and it s a cool gauge that seems to work well.



you get a few different facias too, chrome lip etc

 

Ive just bought a innovate gauge, really easy 2 fit, looks, same as the 1 in rapidcossie car.

 

i fitted it myself so it must be easy

 

http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm

ive had a lm1 and lc1a plenty off them this has been brilliant

 

AEM Wideband - Around £200 if you get them at the right price.

Mega accurate and reliable, come with a top of the range bosch sensor, all the wiring, all the calibrations, different backgrounds etc.

Proper bit of kit. Even The Diva was impressed

 

Innovate LC1 controller + DB/G2/G3 gauge kits work and look well for a permanent installation, fair price too IMO at £180ish for full kit.

http://www.grahamgoode.com/innovate/db_ga.html

 

i put my innovate afr gauge thingy in ere

 

Cheers guy,s ,for one ggr are cheaper than ebay lol


cheeRS stu

 

I've got a AEM Wideband which is really good.

but the Innovate (LM-1 IIRC) is just as impressed with, maybe even more so.

 

top of the range

 

must be one of them £35 vw ones that nearly every wideband kit uses then

 

 

LOL

 

Thanks for the chat jay,just ordering a kit now

cheeRS stu

 

hmmmmm

if i was keeping my car i would love to get one of these, would be excellent for peace of mind

 

Might as well sell my new secs monitor me thinks now


cheeRS stu

 

Innovate is hands above the rest.

OE industry is looking into their patented controller for tighter control than they have currently due to the speed and accuarcy the unit works at.

 

Thats ok mate anytime

 

I cant see that personally as i am on my 5th sensor THIS YEAR on the innovate unit i only use occasionally when my ECM is busy, yet my ECM unit has never broken in 7 years. LOL

 

really im suprised at that as i thought i was the only one in the uk with these faults , sent loads back and the last got launched at the garage wall and brought a ziextronic

 

What... you mean the random "Sensor error" and "heater Error" are not just my problems...

"Thats odd sir, weve never heard of that happening before!!"

 

no because there the best money can buy

stu you ever seen the complaining threads on the innovate forum


the idea is good but reliability well nasty

 

I've been getting the 'pump open' error alot recently on my LM1.

Read up on the Innovate forum last night & it recommended I did a full re-calibration - free air & heater.

Did that this morning before I came to work & fingers crossed it seems to be ok so far.

I think I'll be buying a spare Bosch lambda though as it sounds like these do go pretty regular.

Something that I did find interesting though it that they state that you shouldnt leave a lambda sendor in an exhaust system thats NOT connected to a guage etc as this can fuck the sendor very quickly!!

 

Good advice, the tip needs to be kept at 800+C

 

it's wierd that the Lsu4 sensors appear to be so unreliable in conjunction with the innovate kit, as they are used OE in a lot of VAG cars for example, and cause no bother at all for tens of thousands of miles...
I've seen sensor error problems on my LM1 on occasions that has been attributable purely to position in the exhaust (in a OE sensor position in a Rover downpipe for example, between two secondary pipes) we couldn't get any sense out of it at all and all indications were that the sensor was bust, but putting the same sensor in the tailpipe jig then worked perfectly

 

i have the zeitronix kit also



(excuse poor quality pic )


still not got round to using it yet

 

I've heard of many faults with Innovate, but ive used a few and never have any problem. Mine's been on the S2 for over 2 years now, driven daily and it's faultless. it could be a build quality issue, possible with heater current overcoming the wiring - just a random guess. They also won't work with a sensor that is to far 'gone' - the detecting logic could be a little too sensitive. Still, the measuring principle is second to none, and it's this the OEM's are looking into.

Rick.

 

I have seen some one who can supply these on blue oval owners club.

 

a gauge is great for reference but a user adjustable
alarm output is what i would want!
anyone know which unit does this?
i like the new "just out" zietronix gauge.

 

SO, how often is it recommended that you change the sensor to ensure you're generally not going to miss the car running lean?

Also, is there any way of having say, a wideband AFR and Fuel pressure / boost gauge connected to sound an alarm if all 3 were out of sync? (thinking Lean, lots of boost / high fuel pressure indicated lots of boost...)

 

Anyone? Pretty pls

 

my vems guage with egt sensor should be here nxt week! woo woo more toys! anyone else got one of these?

 

Wheres the cheapest place for the innovate sensor ???
I could do with a spare.

 

Ebay often - Audi/Vw OE wideband sensors are the same. Last 2 I got cost about £15 each, one was brand new.

 

And that will be a bosch lsu4 or?? 5 Wire thing if I remember correct!


I am ALSO one of those people that consider buying one... I am looking at the Zeitronix kit with LCD display or the Dynojet WBCommander kit.