Ford Escort RS Turbo This forum is for discussion of all things pertaining to the Ford Escort Rs Turbo Series 1 and 2.

Who uses bleed valves?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 07:20 PM
  #1  
SelbyRST's Avatar
SelbyRST
Thread Starter
4x4 SAFF
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 797
Likes: 0
From: Nottingham
Default Who uses bleed valves?

Just wondering, as aabout 6 months ago i took my car to jamsport, they chipped it, -31 and put a bleed valve on, 16psi, 169bhp and 202 lpft. Standard everything else and been fine for 6 months.

I thought it was normal to use a bleed valve for stage one?

Just that i went on my local rsoc and someone told me that they shouldnt have used a bleed valve and there crap and i should chuck it in the bin. And then said i should use the correct things to get 16psi without a crappy bleed valve.

Then some else said jamsport did his rst van and got 15psi without bleed valve....

So first thing why did they use a bleed valve on mine and not his?

And second thing is what should have been used instead of a bleed valve?
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 07:38 PM
  #2  
project rs's Avatar
project rs
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,553
Likes: 1
From: wirral
Default

you can do it either way with bleed valve or by trial and error with amal valve connected and adjusting actuator to get desired boost. but if you then upgrade to say a large front intercooler and want to up boost bleed valve is instant getting amal and actuator to right boost could take hours which you wouldn't want to pay for. there's nothing wrong with bleed valves so long as you LEAVE them alone once set up
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 07:40 PM
  #3  
SelbyRST's Avatar
SelbyRST
Thread Starter
4x4 SAFF
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 797
Likes: 0
From: Nottingham
Default

The lad that was saying he has not got a bleed valve also says he hasnt got amal valve either, how does this work?
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:31 PM
  #4  
Fiecos Dan's Avatar
Fiecos Dan
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 0
From: S/E Kent, Thanet
Default

Bleed valves are fine, as long as locked off with wire after setup, to stop fiddleing.

i use them on all mu cars if needed.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:00 PM
  #5  
addiction's Avatar
addiction
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,743
Likes: 0
From: South Wales
Default

agreed absolutely nothing wrong with bleed valve's when set up correctly!
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:13 PM
  #6  
SelbyRST's Avatar
SelbyRST
Thread Starter
4x4 SAFF
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 797
Likes: 0
From: Nottingham
Default

So why the f*ck is this bloke moaning at me about then?!?!
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:43 PM
  #7  
Billy_RS's Avatar
Billy_RS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 6,104
Likes: 47
From: Luton, Beds
Default

Tell him to shut up.

Setup using a bleed valve is fine. Just dont play around with it.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:46 PM
  #8  
BRAMMER's Avatar
BRAMMER
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9,665
Likes: 16
From: The North
Default

The amal valve was fitted to the cars from the factory as a electronic bleed valve to prevent over boost, so if your running above standard boost its no good really, also a bleed valve is fine if its left untouched, its when you get juvenile planks winding it out to race their mate, you get what i mean.
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 11:12 AM
  #9  
Turbocabbie's Avatar
Turbocabbie
Top Cab !!
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,989
Likes: 1
From: .
Default

I would never have one as personal preference than any other reason, I must admit I have a bad opinion of them
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 12:04 PM
  #10  
matt p's Avatar
matt p
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,577
Likes: 0
From: Houghton Regis
Default

Why is that?

As above really, only really needed to bypass the anal valve

Just makes the whole setup process easier and saves you money

Tell your mate tp shut up if he does not, slap him with a wet trout!

Cheers

Matt
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 12:11 PM
  #11  
rs shawn's Avatar
rs shawn
S1 Database Editor
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 6,492
Likes: 8
From: Lincolnshire
Default

Agree with the other comments: if it's set up correctly and not fiddled with then there's no problems having a bleed valve fitted.
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 12:30 PM
  #12  
T28 RST's Avatar
T28 RST
Ok then
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 4,300
Likes: 2
From: GLASGOW
Default

Ive had one on mine for 5 years without any hassle apart from when some fool decided to give me an extra 5 psi at one of the shows

Get it set and leave it alone, do that and you wont have any troubles.
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 01:05 PM
  #13  
SelbyRST's Avatar
SelbyRST
Thread Starter
4x4 SAFF
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 797
Likes: 0
From: Nottingham
Default

Yeah thats what i thought to b honest, got some boost hoses coming tomorrow so once v fitted them think im gna get booked into jampsort for another set up any way.

Cheers lads
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 01:41 PM
  #14  
matt p's Avatar
matt p
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,577
Likes: 0
From: Houghton Regis
Default

Good lad may see you there
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 01:50 PM
  #15  
SelbyRST's Avatar
SelbyRST
Thread Starter
4x4 SAFF
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 797
Likes: 0
From: Nottingham
Default

You work there?
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 02:36 PM
  #16  
matt p's Avatar
matt p
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,577
Likes: 0
From: Houghton Regis
Default

Just help out a abit mate, mainly at weekends learning bits of jamie and the boys...

Proper laugh there, and they taketime out to show and tell you aswell, top bunch of people.

Was funny when comedy dan used to work there

The bike with no chain and the potatoe rocket cannon spring to mind
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2007 | 02:02 AM
  #17  
Turbocabbie's Avatar
Turbocabbie
Top Cab !!
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,989
Likes: 1
From: .
Default

Originally Posted by matt p
Why is that?
Because even if the vehicle owner does not play with it others do as stated elsewhere in this thread and because of that I do not like them.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2007 | 08:09 AM
  #18  
Fiecos Dan's Avatar
Fiecos Dan
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,775
Likes: 0
From: S/E Kent, Thanet
Default

Thats why i lock mine and other i set up with locking wire.


But people can still play around with other boost controll systems, by removing the boost/vac pipe.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2007 | 12:41 PM
  #19  
rst in breaking's Avatar
rst in breaking
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 7,827
Likes: 0
From: chingford, london
Default

Originally Posted by matt p
Why is that?

As above really, only really needed to bypass the anal valve

Just makes the whole setup process easier and saves you money

Tell your mate tp shut up if he does not, slap him with a wet trout!

Cheers

Matt
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2007 | 01:52 PM
  #20  
Oranoco's Avatar
Oranoco
Professional Waffler
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 25,425
Likes: 41
From: HertFORDshire
Default

There's nothing wrong with the bleed valve only the moron that tinkers with it once it's set up
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2007 | 10:23 AM
  #21  
SafeChav's Avatar
SafeChav
10K+ Poster!!
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 13,798
Likes: 1
From: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Default

The only issue that is more often than not overlooked with fitting bleed valves onto RST's is that you should only ever use a 3 port bleed valve if you still run MFI.

Other than that as everyone has said, it is perfectly acceptable and safe
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
abz474
Cars for Sale
9
Nov 1, 2015 06:53 PM
Chas
Ford Escort RS Turbo
14
Oct 5, 2015 07:13 PM
DAZZER
Ford Escort RS Turbo
5
Sep 30, 2015 08:43 PM
fordrallycar
Ford RS Cosworth Parts for Sale
0
Sep 30, 2015 07:57 PM
markk
General Car Related Discussion.
9
Sep 9, 2015 08:11 AM




All times are GMT. The time now is 06:48 PM.