hi.. im sure that i read somewhere that the 3 door front hubs are an upgrade for the saff and was wondering what this actually does... thanks..

 

pm mike rainbird, he explained it to me once

 

so do you think they are worth having if cheap enough.. as i can get some cheap... to go on a 2wd saff...?

 

yes deffo, its a handling thing and deffo worth it if they cheep

besides means you can sell them on for a profit after too

 

The knuckles are different. If you change the hubs, your current TCAs will no longer fit. As such you need to either change the TCAs as well with 3dr items, or more sensibly buy the adjustable TCAs from Mike Rainbird at the same time

JJ

 

To add - makes the car turn in better on a track etc, but also makes the car a little more twitchy at speed.

JJ

 

ok no worries.. is £30 the pair a good price..?

 

yes mate,,,,, they sell for 150 quid

 

good so a bargain price then... thanks for the help.. they are only 20 mins aay too,..

 

Sounds good matey! Make sure you get a set of brand new bearings and strip and overhaul them before fitting (you know it makes sense!). Make sure you are buying the right thing also - Check the knuckles.

Adjustable TCAs are a little dearer, but well worth the money

JJ

 

is their much difference just by looking at them.. ? they wont be going on the car yet as only got 2 month tax left and ill take off the road again for winter.. .. could you tell if they are the correct ones from a pic.... ?

 

If you also put on a 3 door front roll bar, on a 2wd sapph/hatch it gets much better also, as I did all the time.
tabetha

 

It is all about how the TCAs fit to the hubs. On the 3door, they have a thread and nut. On the saphs, they have a different configuration. If you post a photo, I would prob be able to tell as long as you have a close up of the knuckle where the TCA fits.

Tabetha
I never realised about the 3 door AR Bar - Big difference then?

JJ

 

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...o4k/a356_3.jpg

 

ill put another pic up when i get them but even if they are not 3 door ones ill just use as spares anyway...

 

BIG difference, as it has less castor so is more twitchy, but grips better turns in better too, got to hold on though not very relaxing a bit like a mini/go kart for twitchiness!!
The other way is to use a spacer between the TCA bushes and the butt where it stops on the end of the roll bar thread.
I made some 10 + 15mm spacers like a "C" shape so you could just loosen roll bar/tca and insert then tighten up, so spacer goes between tca/bush and end inner stop/butt up of roll bar, so it pushes the wheel slightly further forward.
tabetha

 

Interesting - I find that since I changed mine over and put on the Adjustable TCAs, mine is already pretty twitchy.

To be honest, I find the turn in so vastly improved, I am not sure if I would want any further twitchness.

I had intended to deal with the rear beam next, but your comments are most interesting.

JJ

 

Hi matey - they look right as far as I can tell from a photo.

Hate the colour choice mind! LOL

Definately do the bearings whilst they are out!

JJ

 

cheers . not sure if i will bother fitting them as i thought the car handled fine already ill either keep and fit next summer or sell them on... fed up of working on the car i just want to drive it..