i was looking at an rs500 and was comparing the equivilant of it at the time it was made.

apart from scoobies and evo's but problem is these are rally cars so 4wd, skylines if you can stretch a bit but thats rich mn teritory again.

touring cars these days seem to based on seats, civics, etc.... am i correct in thinkng the rs500 and m3 days in touring cars were more faster??? or was that a different type of touring car championships?

i know the new bmw 3series have got their road going version of their 4cyl touring car, tech wise its probably way ahead of the cosi, m3s of back in the day but the reviews o that car are no way cosy killing.

cant they make a RAW turbo charged engine with a fair sized turbo in RWD for the poor man

it seems the rich boys are having all the fun while the poor have to keep moding cosworths, scoobs, evos,skylines to keep up.

im sure there are probably new gay laws to keep the cars a bit less raw but is there a reason that anyone knows of for sure??

 

its also partly due to the homologation rules changing, so that manufacturers dont need to sell a replica, just a similar version, if you know what i mean...

 

all the tossers who can't drive would be sueing when they smash their RWD turbo car up , no win no fee

 

their all homs

 

thought there might have been a reason something like that


and what RWD_Cossie_wil said

 

ERR, there WAY more cars like that these days than back then.

RS500 prices were similar, with inflation etc, as top Evos and Scoobys are today.

Mostly 4WD, but decent modern RWDs exist that are way faster than stock RS500s.

Most arnt or wernt officially sold in the UK though.

 

I borrowed a video from a friend which was about the 1988 british touring car championship n 9 races out of 11 the rs 500 won n nearly every race they came 1st 2nd 3rd 4th n 5th proper car back in the day n in my eyes they still r now a pure legend

 

Totally agree....

4x4 you are talking CRAP

Take off the rose tinted glasses....

Next you will be telling us Gangsters were soo much better in the old days... Those lovely Kray twins, they were good boys really. Would only ever hurt there own etc etc.. blah blah... bollox bollox...

 

why is it that its always the same users talking down to other users.

i dont use this site for conflicts as thats for users like yourself who need some action in their lives, only asked a question.

stavros had some good points but if you could give a few details of RWD cars of today that equal todays cars that dont cost in excess of Ł1,000 just for an intercooler setup?

surely the intercoolers are not that different apart from the fixings.

but thanx for that porkie, rather than just giving examples just reply aggresively. i know you would never react to things like that in person

 

what in fucking gods name are you on about?

a decent front mounter kit for most cars are about 400quid these days

 

in the name of fucking gods name... focus ST

 

Eh? Whats a focus ST got to do with the fact most FMIC kits for decent cars cost about 400quid these days, inc loads of piping, rather than the 1000quid+ you was on about.

About the same as a ProAlloy RS500 one.

And a bit less than a Focus ST one.

 

What the FUCK are you going on about.... I am taking the piss out of you and having a joke!!!

And you ask ANYONE who knows me if you came out with the crap that you just did standing next to me I would take the piss in EXACTLY the same way as I did on here!!!!!!

Stop being such a fucking GIRL ...... if you want to make massive sweeping statements that are completely WRONG on a this forum you HAVE to expect a bit of banter back

You might have noticed this forum is like that???? WE HAVE A LAUGH AT EACH OTHER!!! BUT the moderators are very good and if anyone gets out of hand with someone or is bullying or just being a cnut to people (ala Davescos ) They get dealt with!

Now please give me more examples of me talking down to someone??? or apologise

 

Strange post!

Why does it have to be a RAW turbocharged RWD car to be fast?

Those cars in standard form are now slow in comparison to today's RWD sportscars etc...

Intercoolers?

 

looking through pf/ff mags i've seen intercoolers of good makes for over Ł800, its not 1k but not far of. that is the reason i didnt end up getting the new ST. blue fin costs around 550 for what seems to be a very slight increase in power.

my point was are cars becoming harder to get power out of without paying shit loads of moey for small gains

 

The point you're missing is that cars are starting with more power!

You can buy an Astra VXR which is obviously a GM take on the RS Turbo type of car, and it comes with 240bhp!

 

yeah so please give examples. i never started this post to disagree with people, i actually asked for cars which could be missed.

apart from the ferrari's and other exotics nothing seems to be good fun to drive anymore.

 

Now you've lost the plot!

Nothing fun to drive?

Have you ever driven a properly fun car? Can you drive?

 

Well all the more reason to go Jap like I said. S14 or S15 are RWD 2litre turbo, better performance in every way than a stock RS500, and FMIC's and stuff cost between 350 and 500 quid generally

GTST Skylines are another obvious option seeing as you on about RWD.

 

if i am completely wrong then give some names of cars, i actually want to know as im looking for a new car.

if your going to say e46 m3 then no thanx. been there done that...

 

i had a s14 but i was after a new newish car.

 

very true, but in fairness I would expect that probably weighs more than an rs turbo.

 

think you may have lost the plot as your under the impression that whats fun to you is the same for everyone else.

ofcourse cars are fun to drive but the ones i've driven are too expensive for me.... 80k + so thats no good to me.

 

Made S14s till about 2001 and if not then an S15 then.

Or a R34GTT.

Or a JZX100 Chaser

Or a JZX110 Chaser

Or fuck knows how many other fast, reasonably priced, turbocharged, RWD cars.

Simple and cheap job to convert Scoobys to RWD if you wanted too.

And why RWD? Might wanna drive the tits off an Evo or whatever before you decide 4WD isnt what you want.

 

vauxhall? no thanx

and its not RWD is it?

 

Seriously mate??? you really are having a laugh now!!!!

Have you actually driven an Evo or even an ST?

There are some fantastic cars out there now!!! MUCH MUCH MUCH more fun to drive than a standard RS500!!!

Drive a Ł7k Elise.... and try NOT to smile! its impossible!!

What about a Monaro!! cracking cars!!! proper engines!!!

and why did you not like the E46 M3? great cars...

Porsche 996's start at Ł20k now... alot of car for the money!

 

Boxster S, Z4M Coupe, 350Z GTS, Lotus Exige?

 

4x4 you are talking about RWD cars then you starting talking about the price of a FWD focus ST intercooler?

 

cheers, i'll look those cars up

i just dont like 4wd anymore. dont like the way they feel in 3rd all the way through to 5th.... 1st and 2nd pull nice but then it feels like a different car once your in 3rd, 4th and 5th. im talking about a nissan pulsar with about 320-330 bhp

 

just giving an example of the costs of affordable cars with a bit of performance... hope you dont start a conspiracy on my reasons to start a thread

 

Forgot about the Nissan 350Z as well! proper hooligan car!!!

 

im sure an elise is good fun and have wanted to test drive one so thanx i might do that. i prefer the exige tho

have you ever driven a ferrari 360CS, F430, murci, db9? i know these are for the rich which i aint but thats what im calling fun. Evo 6-8 i have driven and it was very good fun but again these were standard and never got to through em round corners as this is where they shine

 

thanks theres another one i could try...

 

Not driven a 360CS, driven a standard one. Driven all the others. All cool as fook... but not as much fun as alot of cars I have driven!!!

have you driven them all? what made them fun to you? I found the Murci a bit too big to really throw around and have fun in on roads. DB9 was great and I had a mates Volante for the whole weekend... was it cool? yes... as fun as a Caterham?? FOOOOK no! I only had brief drive of F430... stunning! oh and as for the 360?? there is a red one parked outside my garage right now!!! sadly its not a spider!!!

 

If you want a cool road car and thrilling trackcar.... and one that I think is a the bottom of its depreciation curve and may even start to maybe increase in value slightly get a Mk1 996 GT3. A well used but not hammered one can be got for Ł30k... a future classic I think.

 

have to agree with the murci feeling big, have to admit i was a little scared to corner fast in it as im sure it can bite my head of.

db9 is my cousins but the rest belong to a friend.. lucky fuckers

i've driven all of the ones i mentioned never driven a caterham but would love to. trying to convince my mate to bring his bugatti EB110 and let me drive it

also driven a 550/575 and 575 super america, the one with the silly rear windscreen

 

never new that.....

i will be looking around now

 

fucking hell Porkster is firing on all 6 cyclinders now you have him reved up

 

I thought Porsches were "gay/bad image" on here and an Escort Cab was "the car to own" lol