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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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chap at works missis has just put petrol in her diesel golf (TDI 140 06 plate)

someone has drained it & refilled it with diesel, its runs but not very well, what damage does the petrol usually do???
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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just tell them to drop a lit match in the tank, burn it all out,

should run fine after that
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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If they change the fuel filter it should be ok after a few tanks. My sisters ex did the same to her old 306 diesel when he put a tenner of fuel in it so I got him to brim it with diesel to dilute it. After we drove it until it was close to empty (drove badly and didn't like starting) I changed the fuel filter and was perfect again
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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You can normally get away with it, if it knackers anything its normally the diesel pump as the diesel lubricates this and when you fill it with petrol it obviously doesn't, so needless to say if you run a diesel on petrol it will put a few 1000 miles wear on the pump .
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Would change the fuel filter personally, part number 1j0127401a or something like that
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by paulpalmer
If they change the fuel filter it should be ok after a few tanks. My sisters ex did the same to her old 306 diesel when he put a tenner of fuel in it so I got him to brim it with diesel to dilute it. After we drove it until it was close to empty (drove badly and didn't like starting) I changed the fuel filter and was perfect again
As you said... OLD 306 Diesel...

Don't ever put petrol in a modern diesel and drive. Drain and clean tank, fuel filter and fuel hoses first.

The problem is: The high-pressure diesel pump is lubricated by the diesel. Petrol doesn't lubricate so there will be excessive wear to the pump. In a worst case scenario the chippings of the pump can get into the combustion chamber. Need I say any more?

If you put petrol in a modern diesel for god's sake don't start or drive it. A new diesel pump alone can be about 1500 pounds. Of course it always depends on how much petrol is in the diesel. If it's only a few litres you might get away with it. Moreover the diesel doesn't get to the injection pump immedieately, there's quite some fuel in the fuel hoses and filter.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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i thought a bit of petrol was always a good thing in diesels? cleans them out a bit doesnt it?
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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petrol on a new type diesel?

if you dont want to spend serious money in the future then sell the car, you can get it to run fine for now but there will be serious probs

if she didnt turn the key she will be fine
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what PeterRST said

if the key has been turned then you are looking at the inner working being fucked at some point

we had this on ne of our connects, it ran fine for about an hour then it was fucked
so we drained the pertrol out and put in diesel and it seemed to be fine again
but after about 3 weeks it was properly fucked again and needed Ł3k spent on the fuel system to get it sorted, we got it done under warranty and sacked the guy who put it in
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterRST
A new diesel pump alone can be about 1500 pounds.

Ł1500?!?!?!?!?
Why, how?!?! Its only a fuel pump!

I'm so glad I've given up on modern cars
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Originally Posted by swerv
petrol on a new type diesel?

if you dont want to spend serious money in the future then sell the car, you can get it to run fine for now but there will be serious probs

if she didnt turn the key she will be fine
fully agree here i just told a customer same thing with an 05 alfa she tanked and drove till it stopped , i got it running and sent her to trade it in

petrol in new systems not good , shud also add if you try to claim under any fuel concern under warranty on the vehicle they will test it and refuse any payment if petrol trace is found
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Originally Posted by dojj
what PeterRST said

if the key has been turned then you are looking at the inner working being fucked at some point

we had this on ne of our connects, it ran fine for about an hour then it was fucked
so we drained the pertrol out and put in diesel and it seemed to be fine again
but after about 3 weeks it was properly fucked again and needed Ł3k spent on the fuel system to get it sorted, we got it done under warranty and sacked the guy who put it in
fookin heck how did u sack him for that , surely was a mistake , thats a bit harsh isnt it
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Originally Posted by Ade
Originally Posted by PeterRST
A new diesel pump alone can be about 1500 pounds.

Ł1500?!?!?!?!?
Why, how?!?! Its only a fuel pump!

I'm so glad I've given up on modern cars
possibly due to the fact that they have less than 10 microns tolerances
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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Hope hes hasnt damaged the pump BIG money!
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ade
Originally Posted by PeterRST
A new diesel pump alone can be about 1500 pounds.

Ł1500?!?!?!?!?
Why, how?!?! Its only a fuel pump!

I'm so glad I've given up on modern cars
Pump needs to be reprogrammed mate.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by filthyrichie
Originally Posted by dojj
what PeterRST said

if the key has been turned then you are looking at the inner working being fucked at some point

we had this on ne of our connects, it ran fine for about an hour then it was fucked
so we drained the pertrol out and put in diesel and it seemed to be fine again
but after about 3 weeks it was properly fucked again and needed Ł3k spent on the fuel system to get it sorted, we got it done under warranty and sacked the guy who put it in
fookin heck how did u sack him for that , surely was a mistake , thats a bit harsh isnt it
i'll find the picture of the van with no foor on it when he decided that his van (which stands 8 foot 4 inches tall at optimum hieght) would fit under a 6 foot bridge and prompty smashed the fook out of the top of it

it was a matter of Ł40 between writing the van off or repairing it and it was only about 6 months old when he totaled it
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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ahhh now i understand , sack the fooker lol pics please
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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I pulled into my local garage about a year ago behind a postman pat vauxhall combo. Pat was stood there filling his van up,chatting away to his mate. When i looked up to see what he was doing,i noticed he had the super unleaded hose in his van,and he had put Ł20 in the fucker!
"can i still drive it ?",said pat,
"i think you better ring your boss" i replied.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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but they didn't sack the old giffer who filled up the sprinter with petrol from tescos'
4 times in a week
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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We had a 56 plate galaxy [2.0 tdci engine] in work recently, topped the tank up with Ł40 worth of bp ultimate unleaded then drove 90 miles with it running like a bag of shit drained it off and refilled with diesel and a new filter and it drove fine. That said theres a high chance it'll be needing a pump & injectors permaturely.

very expensive business thats for sure, about Ł1k for a pump on average, injectors about Ł250 each + fitting + programming & as said it may be tested and rejected by the warranty company so don't bank on "it's under manufacturers warranty, i don't care.."

On a side note those injectors [2.0 tdci] are on a europe wide backorder indefeinatly apparently and have been for about six weeks so far So don't bank on if it does go wrong i'll be back on the road next week cos theres a high chance you won't if you have a 2.0 tdci dw10!
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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as everyone has said
petrol fucks the pump first, when it happnens at work we ALSO have to change the rails pipes when we clean the system out,,, then the injectors will fuck up

reconed pumps are 1000 quid from ford but as said they need programing same as the injectors will also so thats a extra 90 quid plus vat onto of the other labour charges

the high presure ( more than the old ones too) diesels dont EVER use petrol to wash the tank out
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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So much for modern diesels being economical
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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p.s. they run at pressure of upto 36bar easily, thats ALOT!
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ade
So much for modern diesels being economical
they are ALOT fucking better than the old oil burner tractor engines

cant blame the engines if the owner decides to stick icecream in the engine,, its like saying " these new cars aint very tough cause bigfoot drove over it
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Not so sure, I think I'd happily trade a few MPG for simplicity, low repair bills and durability
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ade
Not so sure, I think I'd happily trade a few MPG for simplicity, low repair bills and durability
Deisel cars also generally hold there vaule better than petrol equivilent. Who says repairs on petrol cars are cheap and they are less durable?

Well looked after derv will go for a LONG time without major prob. i have had a few and never had a problem. Think i will go back to another derv once i sell the honda in a year or two.
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tell her stick to old pieces of shit

was she blonde by any chance
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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drained most of the fuel out, put Ł20 of diesel in, chugged it home, cleaned lines & filter, another Ł20 of diesel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,















































so far,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,






























brandfuckingnew



fingers crossed
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van with



van without



sorry for the thread hijack
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by James
p.s. they run at pressure of upto 36bar easily, thats ALOT!
not quite...

try 1800bar!!!!!!!


Petrol will kill the pump - but being a VW its a PD engine so has what are called unit injectors - each injector is the high pressure pump!

Alex
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