Anybody got a front & rear picture of a 355 floating disk fitted to the bell (with bolts & bobbins assembled).

Cheers

 

top as i'm redoing mine at te weekend too

 

theres diagrams on the ap website if your looking for them

 

....is a 355mm ap disk a properly floating disk or semi?...The reason i ask is my reyland kit was listed as fully but after feeling my ducati fully floating disks i'd say semi.

 

you cant have semi floating disks,,, they either float or they dont

 

Gareth a DUke 916bp is semi floating..the 916sp fully floating i have had both one moves a little the other clatters like its ready to come off.

 

That's just a normal Ducatti engine .

 

Who gives a flying rats fucking ass! i wanna know about the CAR fitments!!

And its been sorted! The reason i asked for pics was because i have seen a pic where the bobbins were fitted differently (what i thought was incorrectly to what i did!).

So donned my sherlock holmes cap & found out you can fit the bobbins either way! (as long as they match!).....

Rich i'm fitting mine up tonight so i'll take some piccys for you!

 

Oh and AP have changed their washer colours to universal (Martin told me one should of been stainless, the other gold!)

Thought i'd become colour blind.............Not to mention thick as 2 planks!!

 

wrong,most sports motorbikes have semi floating,except exotica like sp which are fully floating,

aps are semi floating,not full.

 

and are prone to cracking!!

get brembo's on,what a difference.

 

...well i am stunned by mike r/reyland as my ap kit was sposed to be fully floating ...so it took my bike to find out the ap kits are not what they say on the tin i hope you will ammend your sales patter

 

AP call them floating rotors,,, i guess they are wrong then

http://www.apracing.com/car/brakedisc/float.htm

ima stop sturing shit

 

...gareth pop round and feel fully floating brakes,then yours and you will find ima right..so not stirring anything.

 

just because one type floats more than another doesnt mean one is called semi floating, its just a difference in design

 

...i think Tim is right on this one and you are wrong Gareth...for once

...the ducati 916bp has semi floating front brakes thats from the ducati specs.

 

ive have googled it,, and on bikes they do seam to call them semi-floating and floating,,, never heard this term with cars though

 

...no on cars you just get floating.....NOT fully floating...LOL....seriously i thought there was something wrong with the bike they are so loose ..but i have been assured when warmed up they are the bollocks

 

slightly better than the bollocks.

 

Making stuff up as usual? I have never described my brake kits as "fully floating" to anyone .....and having checked my site I can't find a mention there either.

 

...Martin i assumed cause mike told me that,you would have told him that..sorry There does seem to be some confusion over the semi/fully floating thing and i expect you didnt realise you could get both?..I mean it took my Duke for me to realise

 

I have never looked into other methods of disc mounting other than what I sell i.e. bolted or floating but having now looked at a couple of bike sites and their meaning of fully floating it would appear that Mike is correct in using the term fully floating as they have both axial & radial float !

You could get the 'loose disc' feel by increasing the axial float.

 

Not true!
Look at the pdf for std bobbins (yours), the others use different bells and/or bobbins!!

 

..so why is the std 916bp classed as semi floating where the disc hardly moves like my 355mm kit and 916sp fully floating which feels as if the disc will fall off?...Obviously the more float the better braking when hot...so really your kits are semi floating even though they float the same way but just not to the full meaning?

 

No, I reckon the AP's should be termed as fully floating! If you wanted more axial float (loose feel) you could simply use longer bobbins or skim a small amount off the disc in the bell mounting area.

Get some pictures of the discs on both bikes and lets see the difference! The bike guys seem to term semi floating as the riveted type and fully floating as a similar set up as the AP, that's my take on it anyway.... could be wrong as I'm not into bikes.

 

Phil,
You're clutching at straws, as the AP's are fully floating. If you look at they way they are mounted, they have full freedom of movement in both axis as Martin describes. The semi-floating ones you are talking about on the bikes do not (again as Martin describes).

 

Not 355 but here is a fitting guide for floaters

Lay disc face up



Install the float bushes (or bobbins as you call em )



Turn over and fit the screws (and if supplied domed washers - dome up)



Add loctite now (not prior to screwing in)



Torque to 11 - 14Nm



HTH

 

Nice photo's but no help whatsoever to Mr Franco as the pics show the Brembo system!

 

i hope you mean belleville washers

 

i hope you mean belleville washers [/quote]

what is a belleville washer !!!???

 

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl...h+Images&gbv=2

im just being silly martin

 

I did yes but who rattled your cage

They are used as anti rattle washers Gareth

Try putting some in your pocket

 

sorry mate,, i was just being silly

theres no money in my pockets,,, i never carry any,, just a habbit ive picked up from work

 

ok, daft question, but could you convert conventional "bolt up" type rotors/bells to floating just by swapping the bolts for "bobbins/bushes and the correct nuts/washers?"

 

So was I

The pics may help someone Martin

 

...ok semi floating from a 748r model


..fully floating sp model


...as said by Tim earlier ap's are NOT fully floating...

 

Not without modifying your rotors, would be easier to simply buy floating discs to start with.

 

...semi martin see above

 

RWD_cossie_wil

You need a diferent shaped hole in the disc

Gareth will tell you its technical name but we call it "oval"

 

They both look the same... Keep digging...... Perhaps YOU should explain how each differs