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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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Default Well, cossie management is on the car ...

Depending on weather, I MAY be able to pick it up tomorrow

Spoke to Karl regarding the concerns I have with it only having a stage 2 bernie box, and he is going to map it more smoothly, rather than a massive spike in torque which will disintegrate it

Hope its fairly dry tomorrow in Derby tomorrow, so the mapping can commence

Light at the end of the tunnel?

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It's been away a while now now Stu aint it
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only nearly 5 months, not too bad mate

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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Fingers crossed bob, tom, harry...bert
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Great news Stu

Giz a call and let me know
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Great news, hope its dry to Karl can do his stuff and you can finally enjoy the car
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not looking too bad at the mo weather wise

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hope it comes out well Stu and your pleased with it
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hope it comes out well Stu and your pleased with it
You, me, both <real tears pmsl
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Hope it all goes well

Hate to see the bill after 5 months
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yay
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Thought a stage 2 box would be up for it? Or am i thinking of the Plus Plus version...

Good news though Stu
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Originally Posted by StickerPaul
Hope it all goes well

Hate to see the bill after 5 months
yep,storage costs,labour,parts,mot,should be well over Ł20k
















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Good news mate!
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Finally!

Question though, why has he removed the proper DTA managment and fitted a poxy Level 8? The DTA is a far more superior ECU is it not?
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Originally Posted by Shorty
Finally!

Question though, why has he removed the proper DTA managment and fitted a poxy Level 8? The DTA is a far more superior ECU is it not?
your avin a laugh right ?
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So L8 is more advanced than DTA?

Have you got the DTA stuff to flog now then?
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Originally Posted by Stavros
So L8 is more advanced than DTA?

Have you got the DTA stuff to flog now then?
I have.........
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What you want for it?
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Originally Posted by Stavros
So L8 is more advanced than DTA?

Have you got the DTA stuff to flog now then?
probably not more advanced,but certainly better for driveability and perfectly suited to any cossie (better than most ecu's in fact )
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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mmmmm another l8 v the world post

drivability well im not stu as far as mapping is concerned but chip has been in my cossie and he says would wouldnt know the diff in that to a webber

the l8 was designed for a fiat then a cossie and has been used a all kinds of stuff after that
now why a l8 on zetec would be prefered is beyond me as regular comments by quality tuners are the ecu is only as good as person who is working with it

As most of the regular users know ive had loads of advice on mapping off chip, stu, gareth ect lol and as far as most are concerned the only prob with a dta p8 is the mapping interface which on a dyno is spot on but difficult on a live map BUT CAN BE DONE !

so after my waffle there is no benifit to removing it for a webber as now as the fact is you will lose all the facilities the ecu has to offer as the l8 becomes very exspensive ecu to add all the bits and bobs that dta have to offer

just to add if anyone doubts this come and drive mine

oh before anyone else decides to slate a ecu against another read up and try and test as you will be suprised in the results

www.dtafast.co.uk
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Originally Posted by jaycos
mmmmm another l8 v the world post

drivability well im not Stu as far as mapping is concerned but chip has been in my cossie and he says would wouldnt know the diff in that to a webber

the l8 was designed for a fiat then a cossie and has been used a all kinds of stuff after that
now why a l8 on zetec would be prefered is beyond me as regular comments by quality tuners are the ecu is only as good as person who is working with it

As most of the regular users know ive had loads of advice on mapping off chip, Stu, gareth ect lol and as far as most are concerned the only prob with a dta p8 is the mapping interface which on a dyno is spot on but difficult on a live map BUT CAN BE DONE !

so after my waffle there is no benifit to removing it for a webber as now as the fact is you will loose all the facilitie the ecu has to offer as the l8 becomes very exspensive ecu to add all the bits and bobs that dta have to offer

just to add if anyone doubts this come and drive mine

oh before anyone else decides to slate a ecu against another read up and try and test as you will be suprised in the results

www.dtafast.co.uk
Thankyou!
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And i was told that Cosworth management is not needed as KE can do everything it needs to

Good to see years later that some cars are getting converted up north
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so you've spent literally hundreds (probably thousands)on an ecu,and you can't tell the difference from a L8 when driving? sounds good

i don't think Stu is going L8 for a start (L6) but i also don't think he's that interested in 'extras'

finally i also think he'd have stuck with DTA had the monkey who built the car put a proper loom on it!!
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
so you've spent literally hundreds (probably thousands)on an ecu,and you can't tell the difference from a L8 when driving? sounds good

i don't think Stu is going L8 for a start (L6) but i also don't think he's that interested in 'extras'

finally i also think he'd have stuck with DTA had the monkey who built the car put a proper loom on it!!
I`m sure Ryan or Dingy could have built a loom to suit for a quarter of what he has probably spent..
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Whatever ECU Stu decides to go for, im sure Karl will work his magic on the car
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my hole budget spent on the car complete is 6k thats the hole car plus a couple of hundred in fuel martin

and yes a new loom could of been done for less that 500

fact is spent more money than needed to replace a perfectly good ecu
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Originally Posted by The Diva
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so you've spent literally hundreds (probably thousands)on an ecu,and you can't tell the difference from a L8 when driving? sounds good

i don't think Stu is going L8 for a start (L6) but i also don't think he's that interested in 'extras'

finally i also think he'd have stuck with DTA had the monkey who built the car put a proper loom on it!!
I`m sure Ryan or Dingy could have built a loom to suit for a quarter of what he has probably spent..
it's a long story with it tbh.......i think they started to map it,but once it got over a bar it was missfire city!! so Karl spoke to DTA and i 'think' it was becasue it needed a DTA loom put on the car (a common problem apparently) so the option was there to spend a big sum of cash on the proper DTA loom,or convert to cossie management with a Dingy loom...which he's done (also bare in mind Stu has spent a FORTUNE)
also to add, the existing loom couldn't be removed because the previous owner had wired it into the car loom,and only used about 3 colours

note: the above statement is only what i can remember , so may be missing some info
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Cheers Martin,

I would have stuck with DTA if the loom was ok, I tied with the idea of getting a new loom from dta (cost around 700) but cossie management and a new dingy loom was going to be the best for drivability, and "nice car to drive" factor.

Never really liked the way DTA managed the engine to start with really, just felt clumsy so to speak.

Awaiting the phone call

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Cheers Martin,

I would have stuck with DTA if the loom was ok, I tied with the idea of getting a new loom from dta (cost around 700) but cossie management and a new dingy loom was going to be the best for drivability, and "nice car to drive" factor.

Never really liked the way DTA managed the engine to start with really, just felt clumsy so to speak.

Awaiting the phone call


obiviously was not mapped right from the start as for drivability again someone who can map it would sort it no probs
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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So can anyone give me a guesstimate what the ecu and 4 x 850cc injectors would be worth. Ł1200 new.

Cant get on that forum u sent me Jay

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there not 1200 new mate there around 850 so s/h 400 to 500
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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just called dta

ecu 850 + vat therefore 1k
injectors Ł50 each new

therefore 1200

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well seeing as you just wrote that it doesnt work correctly,and never felt right ill take a chance and offer you 200 quid!
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Ask Jay, it works!!

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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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id say its down to fuckin idiots who cant fit it right is why it dont work
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Does it look like your picking it up tonight Stu?

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No mate, been waiting for a phone call, not had one as yet, so will be either over the weekend or Monday I guess....

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