Oil return pipe in sump
Dec 9, 2006 | 11:19 PM
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Oil return pipe in sump
Hi there!
Has anyone ever welded an oil return pipe into the sump of an CVH?
I'm planning to equip my modded XR3i Efi with a Turbo running very low boost pressure (4 or 5 PSI) and I don't want to remove the block.
Dec 10, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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you just drill & tap into block near oil filter as i remember!
Dec 10, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Make sure it's as high as possible on the sump - so well above oil level. The pipe return pipe should be as bend free as possible, so it drains away easily.
Dec 10, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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tap the front of the block where u'd find it on rst
Dec 10, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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tap the front of the block where u'd find it on rst
That's what I'd like to avoid. Don't want to remove the engine.
My plan is to just put a oil lubricated/cooled turbo from a S1 on and run some very low boost. Maybe even without an intercooler, as simple as possible. And therefore the sump would be the easiest option.
Dec 11, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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spend time doin the properly now and less repairing i later
Dec 12, 2006 | 01:35 AM
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spend time doin the properly now and less repairing i later
yep
Dec 12, 2006 | 03:11 AM
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thats wot ive done at the mo 6psi and its going ok lol
Dec 12, 2006 | 03:12 AM
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i may hav a pic of how i done it on my sump let me check
Dec 12, 2006 | 03:16 AM
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Dec 12, 2006 | 03:18 AM
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i just grinded out the nipple from a old rocker cover i had lying around and welded it in from both sides
Dec 12, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Dec 12, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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can be done
i braised a 1/2" hydaulic fitting into the sump - keep it as high as possible
Dec 12, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Yeah, that's exactly what I'd like to do. Now I know that it's possible. Cheers for all the pictures, guys!
Dec 13, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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is that low comp pistons fitted from a rst lump or ?
Dec 13, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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Looks like std. CVH pistons. Non-turbo
Dec 13, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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Yep standard 16i bottom end, now replaced by newly rebuilt all singing all dancing S2 bottom end
Dec 13, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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sweeeeeeeet
Dec 13, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Did Turbo Technics lower the compression ratio at all? 16i had something round 10:1 if I remember correctly, quite high actually.
Dec 13, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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They used the standard compression, the only mods they did was bolt a turbo on and fit a special advance/retard distributor, 5psi max
Dec 17, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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Re: Oil return pipe in sump
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Originally Posted by PeterRST
I'm planning to equip my modded XR3i Efi with a Turbo running very low boost pressure (4 or 5 PSI) and I don't want to remove the block.
This is exactly what I want to do to my EFi Mk3 Escort. The mechanics seem quite simple but I don't know what to do about the management side of it.
Would FRST management work in a low-boost system with the actuator adjusted accordingly? Or would you have to go for an after market ECU?
Dec 22, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Would FRST management work in a low-boost system with the actuator adjusted accordingly? Or would you have to go for an after market ECU?
I guess FRST management would work. However I'd like to know if you can run low boost even with the normal EFI management which is actually designed for N/A engines.
Dec 22, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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They used the standard compression, the only mods they did was bolt a turbo on and fit a special advance/retard distributor, 5psi max
Thanks for the information! Tis making me more and more confident that it'll work in the end.
EDIT: One more thing. Does anyone know some hp figures for such a TT converted 1600i?
Dec 22, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Is it just me, or is that actually pointing downwards slightly
Dec 22, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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Re: Oil return pipe in sump
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Originally Posted by MarkN
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterRST
I'm planning to equip my modded XR3i Efi with a Turbo running very low boost pressure (4 or 5 PSI) and I don't want to remove the block.
This is exactly what I want to do to my EFi Mk3 Escort. The mechanics seem quite simple but I don't know what to do about the management side of it.
Would FRST management work in a low-boost system with the actuator adjusted accordingly? Or would you have to go for an after market ECU?
I thought i already answered that question on your thread....?
https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...light=#3448314
Dec 22, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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was slightley tilted but i got a ful rst engine and running gear to go in so all gud
Dec 22, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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Just one more question: Will the N/A EFI management be able to handle a low boost pressure of lets say 5 psi? Or will I need a FRST loom?
Dec 22, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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was slightley tilted but i got a ful rst engine and running gear to go in so all gud
Thats very very bad mate
May not seem it, but it is
Dec 22, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Just one more question: Will the N/A EFI management be able to handle a low boost pressure of lets say 5 psi? Or will I need a FRST loom?
Not so much the wiring, but you need to change management. you could plug an OFAC ECU and MAP sensor straight in, or OFAB with a couple of very minor and easy to do wiring changes.
Dec 22, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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dnt wrry that engines not gnna be turbo'd again
Dec 22, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Quote:
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Just one more question: Will the N/A EFI management be able to handle a low boost pressure of lets say 5 psi? Or will I need a FRST loom?
Not so much the wiring, but you need to change management. you could plug an OFAC ECU and MAP sensor straight in, or OFAB with a couple of very minor and easy to do wiring changes.
Yeah I know. But do you think that the std N/A EFI won't work for low boost?
Dec 23, 2006 | 01:08 AM
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No.
Well, yes, but expect it to run like poo, and make sure you have a good level of RAC/AA cover...................
Dec 23, 2006 | 01:12 AM
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Dec 23, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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No.
Well, yes, but expect it to run like poo, and make sure you have a good level of RAC/AA cover...................
I've got my own towing truck, so that's not a problem!
OK, looking for an ECU, MAP-Sensor and Charge temperature sensor off an FRST now.
Dec 23, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SafeChav
No.
Well, yes, but expect it to run like poo, and make sure you have a good level of RAC/AA cover...................
I've got my own towing truck, so that's not a problem!
OK, looking for an ECU, MAP-Sensor and Charge temperature sensor off an FRST now.
Thats better
The ECU & MAP will be easy, the ACT is available from ford. Your guna be a bit stuck when you come to find a reducer for the ACT though
Dec 24, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Re: Oil return pipe in sump
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkN
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterRST
I'm planning to equip my modded XR3i Efi with a Turbo running very low boost pressure (4 or 5 PSI) and I don't want to remove the block.
This is exactly what I want to do to my EFi Mk3 Escort. The mechanics seem quite simple but I don't know what to do about the management side of it.
Would FRST management work in a low-boost system with the actuator adjusted accordingly? Or would you have to go for an after market ECU?
I thought i already answered that question on your thread....?
https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...light=#3448314
Yep you did. But if you check the dates I asked the question here before starting my own thread...
Thanks for all your help BTW
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Smart arse
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