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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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whats a good make ???

bascically ive won this.....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...e=STRK:MEWN:IT

is it any good firstly ?

now i need an amp to power it, not knowing hardly anything about car ice can someone help me ?

if the sub is rated at 450w do i need a 450w amp ? does it need to be 2 channel bridgeable or a single channel if you can actually get them lol

dont wanna pay loads for the amp but dont exactly want a shat one either,

help lol............matt
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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anyone at all ????????

noticed matt put an ice question up roughly same time as i did, 18 replys

how many do i get ?????

guess you gotta be in the click or sommat hey ?

will see if i have any better luck on the rsoc forum

thanks everyone
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Poke matey, get yourself a nice kenwood or alpine amp.

Monoblock would be better but its usually the higher end amps that have that.

I nice 2 channel amp will be bridgeable to power that. Let me go see what I can find for you
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...714788347&rd=1 not bad, could run your components up front off that as well

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...714788867&rd=1 just for the sub

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...714789075&rd=1 just for the sub


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=5716083061 Foiokin well worth it
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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guess you gotta be in the click or sommat hey ?
Oh FFS Maybe its that no one actually knows the answer! Remember 90% of the people on this site know nothing more technical than how to put fuel in the tank. A post like how to change a core plug baffles the fuck out of them

anyhow, You dont need a 450W amp. Just get a mono 2-300W amp. Theres no need for stereo if your going to bridge it anyway
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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dont forget to get a amp wireing kit
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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thanks pikie what does monoblock do ?? and a farad cap whats that too ??

is the legacy one a good make ?

cheers and rich

thanks guys..........matt
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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ive got an ivanhoe wiring kit here are they any good ??

i spose a wiring kit is the same as the next one

what do you think of that sub i got off ebay is it good for starters ?
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1. You wont need a cap in that mate.

A cap is like a mini battery and it stores power for when a big bass note drops in on multi amp/sub set-ups. So, with 1 10" sub, there's no need.

You need a cable with a thick enough gauge to run some heavly juice to the amp, otherwise it will just "clip out" all the time and blow fuses.

The sub is OK, personally, I wouldnt have bought it, but its OK. If you want a system to break windows, you need Rockford Fosgate


If you want me to help fit your system for you mate I will be happy to lend a hand.
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anyhow, You dont need a 450W amp. Just get a mono 2-300W amp. Theres no need for stereo if your going to bridge it anyway
No I disagree there... I agree with the monoblock, but not the power ratings.

Amping subs is like building engines. If you want a reliable 230bhp, why build an engine that will make 230bhp tops? Whats gonna happen? your gonna run it at 230bhp all the time, right on the limit of the engines capability. Build yourself an engine that will make 300bhp and run it at 230bhp it is not stressed and reliable as fuck.

Same with amps/speakers. If you got a 450w sub, don't bung it on a 450w amp, as the amp will alwys be struggling to deliver full power all the time. The amp will over heat, clip and generally distort. Bung your 450sub on a 500/550w amp tho, you can turn the gain down so as not to cook the sub and it (the sub) will recieve 450w all day long and the amp won't even break a sweat. ALWAYS over-amp htings and you'll never clip/blow a fuse/cain the amp again

Personally I don't like those Vibe subs (and they fooking HEAVY too) but they do pretty much require the wattage they ask for (unlike a lot that quote 500w and blow up if you give em more than 300 ) So get yourself a Genesis mono-block (good for 600+w with no sweat ) or if you want simple and not really an amp/stereo bufty, a good MOSFET equipped 2ch amp (like Kenwood, Sony, Rockford etc) with 250w per ch (total = 500w) and jsut bridge it
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 10:17 PM
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I used to have a Kenwood PS300T amp. That was a fucking beat, well under-rated, just like rockfords.

Always over power, to keep the gain near halfway on the amp, less chance of distortion and less chance of popping the sub
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...716238741&rd=1


Fuck me, thats a nice, powerful amp
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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so was it not worth 56 quid then ? id been told vibe were quite good thats why i went for it plus the fact i came in arseholed at 1.30 and saw that lol

well i spose itll do for a beginner dont wanna break windows just have things a bit louder

cheers pikie see you tommorw
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Rockfords are very good for power, personally I am not massively keen on their soud - very "clinical" in my opinion, but then thats cos I am very picky with amps and speakers for years of playing live and front of house sound production. To 90% of peoples ears Rockford amp sound as good as any other
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For Ł56 it's a fooking minter mate Bargain or wot Unless you are a first dan audio buff then you ain't gonna be able to tell the difference anyway so think your pretty safe and done rather well
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Pikie - those amps are the NUTS pure and simple - total fooking CLASS

I would rate those right up with the Genesis stuff
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Thrush.............. genesis - Alpine.............. there's no fucking comparrison mate. Alpine piss all over them.

Slow, meet me at the bar at the paddock at 12:30 amte and we will talk installs
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When it sones to digital monoblocks I disagree tho - Genesis monoblocks are fooking SUPERB
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pikie will try my hardest pmsl

will be knocking around tho anyway matey
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if the amp is to powerfull for the sub the sub will be very slopy !!! as there will be to much power
my bros useing a alpine mrd-m301 for to subs and the sound is unreal
http://www.letsbuycaraudio.com/main/amplifiers/16/712
u also need to think bout ohm how low do u want your bass !! if you dont just want all the low bass dont get any think under 2ohms !! u will find that a 500watts amp will be quite good for a 450watts sub as thats prob not at its max wattage !!
hope that helps
as for wireing kits brosusing a Q-DOS "competiton pro" qawk8 (suitable for amplifiers up to 1000watts)
hope thats a little bit of help
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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thanks to everyone for the help
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if the amp is to powerfull for the sub the sub will be very slopy !!! as there will be to much power
That's what gains and crossovers are for you numpty

A 10" sub is never gonna set the ground alight, but will be nice and punchy. Set the crossover at lowpass to play 100hz and below, will sound sweet
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