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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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Right I buggerd my engine up in May (spun shell ). what a great time for it to go

anyway these are my plans.

1, The head will be ported and the plenum chamber matched to the head but with standard valves, BD14 inlet cam standerd exhaust.


2, The block will be rebored to +50 and have Mahle pistons fitted, I considerd Cosworth pistons but was told they was very noisy and about £200 more.
I have been told to use standard head bolts but Iam not sure if this is best.
I will be using a windage tray and a Group A sump, ARP big end bolts.



3, My head gasket was going to be a thick Cometic gasket but Iam not sur now, maybe I should use a Mountune WRC instead?


4, All the other gaskets on the engine will be Cometic as well ( I have not heard anything bad about them yet )



5, Bosh GroupA fuel pump and will be using A Group A oil pump as well.


6, Injectors will be Xo39's if I can find some or Greys if I can't



7, Turbo will be my T34 or a T34 wih Maram shaft so I can run Anti Lag as well.



8. RS 500 Radtec intercooler.


9, when all run in it will be live mapped.



Iam hoping with this set up to be ablle to do low 12's on the quarter mile. do you think this is possible on this spec ?

cheeRS Dave.


PS My car is a Escort Cosworth for those that don't know me.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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The mahles are good enough for over 500hp, just make sure c/r is right
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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Dave, don't be fooled into a GRP A oil pump as its just a £8 spring
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Hi Dingy I have got a new Group A pump from a trader at a good price
anybody got any thoughts on my spec.


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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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yes, dont use cometic exh manifold gaskets, they are SHITE
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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The head and cam choice is perfect.....BUT watch out as the BD14 will touch the piston unless you have cut outs...std springs will be fine too.

Pistons are fine...BUT if you get genuine cossie racing ones from GGR they are machined and will not be noisey.

At your power level std head bolts will be fine..if you can afford it go long stud though especially when using a metal headgasket as these do require more clamp.

Everything else is fine...and should see a nice solid 400bhp
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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LOL, look at Ima sounding all pro!!!!! PMSL

I guess this experience comes from all the dozens of engines you've built and mapped???
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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oh and Dave, you have a PM, can you check it and get back to me pls? cheers mate
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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No Karl its from reading this forum and many books like your goodself

Nice to have you back for a bit of banter and insults
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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thanks Dave I will give the Cometic Exh gaskets a miss then.

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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Your missing some very important info here Dave..

Ported to what spec?

Compression Ratio?

Ecu?

As well as the uprated fuel pump, i recomend you rewire it as well if going to greys/larger.
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
yes, dont use cometic exh manifold gaskets, they are SHITE
Before putting my manifold back on, can you explain what probs you've had, as the exhaust manifold gaskets I have to go on are Cometic.....
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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Hi the head is going to be ported to 26mm on the inlet side, standard on the exhaust.
and the compresion ratio is going to be 7/5/1

cheeRS Dave.


ps P8 ecu with a anti lag baby board hopefully
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
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yes, dont use cometic exh manifold gaskets, they are SHITE
Before putting my manifold back on, can you explain what probs you've had, as the exhaust manifold gaskets I have to go on are Cometic.....
look at the quality of them rich, they are utter shite. I opted for gaskets from cosworth racing and they were 1000 times superior


the cometic ones looked like wafers coming apart


give cosworth a bell and get them from there
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aye, or standard Ford?

We'll see how much I can get on Ebay for these cometic ones
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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i went for cosworth racing ones as im not a gypo

make your choice
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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pmsl

as long as it seals and does its job, I couldn't give a fuck!
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Whats the difference between the racing and std Ford ones???

Plus just cause the Cometic look wafer thin does that mean they are shit???
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Yes Phil they are shit!
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Karl you said you were no longer answering technical questions So i must disregard your answer.
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I put ones from Cosworth on my car and i can concour with Karl n Dave
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I forgot to mention I will be using the Graham Goode single air injector as well, would this be as good as twin air injectors?

Dvae.
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Turbo lag,
1, The head will be ported and the plenum chamber matched to the head but with standard valves, BD14 inlet cam standerd exhaust.


2, The block will be rebored to +50 and have Mahle pistons fitted, I considerd Cosworth pistons but was told they was very noisy and about £200 more.
I have been told to use standard head bolts but Iam not sure if this is best.
I will be using a windage tray and a Group A sump, ARP big end bolts.



3, My head gasket was going to be a thick Cometic gasket but Iam not sur now, maybe I should use a Mountune WRC instead?


4, All the other gaskets on the engine will be Cometic as well ( I have not heard anything bad about them yet )



5, Bosh GroupA fuel pump and will be using A Group A oil pump as well.


6, Injectors will be Xo39's if I can find some or Greys if I can't



7, Turbo will be my T34 or a T34 wih Maram shaft so I can run Anti Lag as well.



8. RS 500 Radtec intercooler.


9, when all run in it will be live mapped.

the way i see it - you pays ya money and takes ya chance - some get it right some have continual problems !!


good luck !!
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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DaveEscos wrote:
yes, dont use cometic exh manifold gaskets, they are SHITE


Before putting my manifold back on, can you explain what probs you've had, as the exhaust manifold gaskets I have to go on are Cometic.....

and i dont have gaskets on mine!

looks like we are here again with people slaggin products theyve not tested

just because they are prob thinner than the std units does that make them shit ???
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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what do you use then Markk

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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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looks like we are here again with people slaggin products theyve not tested

how do you know i havent tested them

how do you know that i didnt buy a complete cometic gasket set, fit all of them and have the exh manifold blow around the exhaust ports

how do you know i didnt take the manifold off, check the gaskets and find they were like kellogs cornflakes packets pritt sticked together with tin foil


and lastly, how do you know that its not the case of them being thinner.. its actually the QUALITY of the cosworth racing ones compared to the utter shite cometic ones

have YOU actually tested them?

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DaveEscos,
how do you know i havent tested them

how do you know that i didnt buy a complete cometic gasket set, fit all of them and have the exh manifold blow around the exhaust ports

how do you know i didnt take the manifold off, check the gaskets and find they were like kellogs cornflakes packets pritt sticked together with tin foil


and lastly, how do you know that its not the case of them being thinner.. its actually the QUALITY of the cosworth racing ones compared to the utter shite cometic ones

have YOU actually tested them?

how do i know you havnt tested them ?

how do i know if you have that you fitted them correctly ?

how do you know that i know that your manifold isnt straight ?

how do i know that you know that your cylinder head ports are straight ?

how do you know that im ever going to stop knowing that you know that i know you didnt even use them at all ?

how do you know that i know ive used them and i didnt like them ?

how how do you know that i know that i havnt used them at all ??

you dont

and if you care to re read my statement , or would you like me to re-read it for you
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Old Aug 20, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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anyone got ant ideas on the air injectors or the exhaust gaskets?

Dave.
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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Using the singer air injector is fine.....i supply these babies and can be used singular or dual....and i am sure GGR are using the same gas injector as its the only avalible suitable injector!

Exhaust gaskets just use std Ford Cossie ones..i never had a problem with them.
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