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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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I've been asked to fit a kit to a mates rwd Cosworh, I have no problem with doing it but there is a few tings I would like to check with people already running nitrous on a yb.

We haven't yet fitted nitrous onto a YB at my work yet so I thought it would be easier to get some answers off here.

I have seen the kits fitted before and the injector has been fitted in the Samco just before the throttle butterfly, after looking at my engine I noticed the throttle body is drilled in the top section for the Idle Control,
Would the holes cause a disturbance in the spray as it would end up being aimed in that direction ? I'm guessing not but just want to be sure.

Besides that I cant see there being any problems, if anyone has any pics they fancy sticking up then that might give me a few ideas.

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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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after looking at my engine I noticed the throttle body is drilled in the top section for the Idle Control,
Would the holes cause a disturbance in the spray as it would end up being aimed in that direction ?.

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Drilled??


"from factory" holes or "someone and their black and decker" type holes?


pics would help?
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Just the Man,

Sorry not drilled, very bad description

Just had a quick look at my tb on my engine and noticed the factory drilled holes for the idle control valve

I'll try and take a pic although camera is crap

Are you running driect port on yours then TIB ? proper job of that last block you had
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Think I may have this problem sorted,

Just dont fit the injector anywhere near the tb !

Where have you put yours ?
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Right, the fogger will be fine going into the samco but try and fit it into the top of the pipe,

the elbow thats after your TB has a divide in it and if you position the fogger into the top of the samco it will mean you get an even amount of nos going into the front and rear ports,

its not very detrimental but every bit helps,

also... the shorter you can make the nos/fuel pipes that go from the pulsiods to the fogger the better


what are you doing about bottle pressure?



mine is just a wet fogger kit
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Dont panic mate, I only use WON kits,

I have heard smal amounts can be gained from correct angle of the fogger, I usually slightly turn it so it allows the fuel and nitrous to bounce off something rather than spray straight in.

I have seen that the plenums on yb's aren't great so I'll make sure I plat around with the angles etc..

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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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hi there have got a won kit on my rwd cossie fitted by nitrous solutions will take some detailed pics and post them on tommorow
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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I would be interested to see that,

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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 03:00 AM
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You only have two choices really mate, in that samco, or direct port, so i wouldnt worry too much about the holes as there isnt anything you can do about it really.

Make sure you (as i know you will but im mentioning in case others reading this dont know) angle the injector so that it "corkscrews" the fuel/nitrous mix down the inlet rather than pointing it straight.

I personally would mount it slightly further away from the TB, even though you will lose a few bhp due to phase change it will give a more even distribution which is more important as you can always claw that few bhp back with a bigger jet if you want anyway!


For larger amounts (i would change over after 150bhp), direct port is a better option simply cause it reduces fuel dropout, but then you get other issues like reversion which can lead to dropout anyway, particuarly at lower rpm, so its a bit 6 of one and half a dozen of the other!
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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Talk to Jaycos from here as well. Think he runs it on his sapphire.
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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What bhp are you after & are you using a Controller, is it just for a quick burst on the road. If so you will be happy with what you are doing. It is however very inefficient for sustained use on the throttle, pressure drop after say 12s on the throttle will probably half your Power.
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Originally Posted by MADRod
pressure drop after say 12s on the throttle will probably half your Power.

Only use mine on the strip so dont get chance to leave it on for 12 long secs
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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im afraid i ask chip what i need to know
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Old Apr 22, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Rod, I wouldn't of thought the guy is going to want to use much more than 100, its running a maximiser as that is what I'm going to fit today but he mentioned doing the other parts whilst I was there.

Its only going to be setup for some fun so it will be on safe jetting, If he fancies leaning it off then that is upto him as I'm not going to be responsible for it going bang

Thanks Chip for the reply, I'll maybe get some pics of the installation once it is done, and my escort whilst I'm there too as its now near enough ready for paint

Thanks again to all
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Here are the pics of the wizzard of noz kit fitted to my rwd cossy by nitrous solutions in braintree Essex. At the moment i am running 70bhp jets but will change back to 50bhp. Have had no problems with either jets but would recomend 50bhp jets to be on the safe side thats why i am changing back, This is with a minimax digital controller and is progresive. it runs seperatley from the ecu and works on the throttle. when the throttle pedel is flat down to the floor the nitrous kicks in. You can programe the nitrous to come in from 2 seconds to 9 seconds. The blue pipe in the picture is from the bottle. hope this helps



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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TiB
Originally Posted by MADRod
pressure drop after say 12s on the throttle will probably half your Power.

Only use mine on the strip so dont get chance to leave it on for 12 long secs
Thats why I asked Lee the single fogger is fine down the 1/4.
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Thanks for the pics.

Mounted the solenoids there too, just on not such a bufty bracket

Hid the maximiser in the glove box which worled out alright
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Old Apr 23, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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my minimax is in the glove box to. had the kit on the car now for 2 years and have set the controller to 2.5 seconds with no problems.
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Rich, that looks fine, i wouldnt do anything different to that, other than possibly mount the injector an inch or two closer to the IC, frankly it makes a refreshing change to see pictures from one of the companies that actually know what they are doing with nitrous!
There are SO many bad instalations out there, and there is no excuse for it really cause its such a simple thing to get the basics right like not having 3 foot long delivery pipes etc, but companies still do it!

But nitrous solutions do have a very good name indeed anyway.
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