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Old 26-01-2006, 04:26 PM
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how much bhp is one good for? would one be fine on an engine running approx 200bhp?
Old 26-01-2006, 05:40 PM
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dont really get the question... do u mean can u get 200bhp from a t2?... yes depending on the rest of the mods.
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Yes you can get 200bhp on the T2 but at that level the engine consumes more air than the turbo can produce
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bear this in mind, 14 psi is about the max you can run on a standard T2 but its border line on over spinning, my T2 runs at 12psi, with the mods i have at the mo i was getting around the 180 mark.
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12 PSI IS ABOUT THE MAX U SAY.IS THIS BECAUSE THE STANDARD INJECTORS ARE ALSO ON THE LIMIT.
I HAVE JUST PURCHASED A HYBRID T2. WHAT WOULD THE LIMIT BE FOR BOOST IF I WAS TO RUN BEIGE INJECTORS AND CHANGE TO A 195 CHIP?
BEARING IN MIND I AM RUNNING AN 1.8 ZVH,165 SUPERCHIP,PACE RAD AND INTERCOOLER,VERNIER WITH STANDARD CAM,UPRATED FUEL PUMP,SCORPION EXHAUST AND A K+N PANEL FILTER.
WHAT IS THE BHP LIMIT ON BEIGE INJECTORS?
THANKS LEE.
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Originally Posted by 1374lee
12 PSI IS ABOUT THE MAX U SAY.IS THIS BECAUSE THE STANDARD INJECTORS ARE ALSO ON THE LIMIT.
I HAVE JUST PURCHASED A HYBRID T2. WHAT WOULD THE LIMIT BE FOR BOOST IF I WAS TO RUN BEIGE INJECTORS AND CHANGE TO A 195 CHIP?
BEARING IN MIND I AM RUNNING AN 1.8 ZVH,165 SUPERCHIP,PACE RAD AND INTERCOOLER,VERNIER WITH STANDARD CAM,UPRATED FUEL PUMP,SCORPION EXHAUST AND A K+N PANEL FILTER.
WHAT IS THE BHP LIMIT ON BEIGE INJECTORS?
THANKS LEE.
im running the P1 set up mate, beige injectors, uprated fuel pump, uprated actuator, got the exhaust, air filer, etc etc

im rebuilding my lump too so am fitting the kent cvh35 cam too when thats done.

the standard T2 will do 14 maybe more but its really pushing it, so 12 is about the max without over spinning it, from what ive been told, if and when i got to the stage 1 i can run more, this is because the stage 1 is basicly a standard T2 with 360 degree thrust bearing.

you say hybrid, do you mean a stage 1? if so as above and limit wise i wouldnt really like to say, 20 i would guess but it all depends on the set up, if you want big power etc your prob best going for a T3 TBH, as im only after the low down "drag" thing the small fast spinning up T2 is just the job for me.

i think the max power with beige is 220 bhp.
from the engine spec ya got and ya have to change that chip, you should see high numbers, depending on the conditon of the engine and how well its been set up will depend on the power, take it to a monkey that knows nothing, its gunna be crap, take it to a pro and its gunna be great

have it set up right and i would think ya got to be somewhere between the 180 and 200 mark, thsts give or take, but as ya running the zetec bottom end, thats ment to be stronger than the cvh so you might even get more, again, depend on the set up,
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Originally Posted by jayRS
Originally Posted by 1374lee
12 PSI IS ABOUT THE MAX U SAY.IS THIS BECAUSE THE STANDARD INJECTORS ARE ALSO ON THE LIMIT.
I HAVE JUST PURCHASED A HYBRID T2. WHAT WOULD THE LIMIT BE FOR BOOST IF I WAS TO RUN BEIGE INJECTORS AND CHANGE TO A 195 CHIP?
BEARING IN MIND I AM RUNNING AN 1.8 ZVH,165 SUPERCHIP,PACE RAD AND INTERCOOLER,VERNIER WITH STANDARD CAM,UPRATED FUEL PUMP,SCORPION EXHAUST AND A K+N PANEL FILTER.
WHAT IS THE BHP LIMIT ON BEIGE INJECTORS?
THANKS LEE.
im running the P1 set up mate, beige injectors, uprated fuel pump, uprated actuator, got the exhaust, air filer, etc etc

im rebuilding my lump too so am fitting the kent cvh35 cam too when thats done.

the standard T2 will do 14 maybe more but its really pushing it, so 12 is about the max without over spinning it, from what ive been told, if and when i got to the stage 1 i can run more, this is because the stage 1 is basicly a standard T2 with 360 degree thrust bearing.

you say hybrid, do you mean a stage 1? if so as above and limit wise i wouldnt really like to say, 20 i would guess but it all depends on the set up, if you want big power etc your prob best going for a T3 TBH, as im only after the low down "drag" thing the small fast spinning up T2 is just the job for me.

i think the max power with beige is 220 bhp.
from the engine spec ya got and ya have to change that chip, you should see high numbers, depending on the conditon of the engine and how well its been set up will depend on the power, take it to a monkey that knows nothing, its gunna be crap, take it to a pro and its gunna be great

have it set up right and i would think ya got to be somewhere between the 180 and 200 mark, thsts give or take, but as ya running the zetec bottom end, thats ment to be stronger than the cvh so you might even get more, again, depend on the set up,
i dont know why people even bother with the t2 turbo, there is not a huge difference in lag between a t2 & t3 the t2 runs out of puff at high revs and they are prone for cracking the exhaust housing and they are expensive. you can have the t3 boosting when you launch just takes a bit of revs
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reving too much all the time on idle anit good, and from my experience the lag from a T3 compaired to the T2 is a lot, lets face it, it is what it is, its a small turbo that spins up fast and give you boost at low revs, thats what its designed for, the T3 starts giving boost about 500-800RPM later than the T2, not saying thats bad as it give good boost all the way and doesnt run out of puff as quick as the T2, but it depends what ya want, as i said, T2 is idel for me, roads over hear are farly short, but having a T3 giving top end boost is no good for what i want as i would run out of road quick before the full benifits from the T3 come in,
ive beat many ERST off the line and up the road, even gave a cossie a run for its money once, but as ya say my T2 ran out of puff and he sailed past, as he would in a cos, but the point im making is that the T2 is a good turbo if ya using it for what you want

as for the housing cracking, yeah the internal on mine has got a crack but it is only small, but ive seen T3's with the same, its the cast iron, getting red hot and cooling down all the time, its gunna happen.

the T2 is a good turbo if its for the job you want
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Originally Posted by jayRS
reving too much all the time on idle anit good, and from my experience the lag from a T3 compaired to the T2 is a lot, lets face it, it is what it is, its a small turbo that spins up fast and give you boost at low revs, thats what its designed for, the T3 starts giving boost about 500-800RPM later than the T2, not saying thats bad as it give good boost all the way and doesnt run out of puff as quick as the T2, but it depends what ya want, as i said, T2 is idel for me, roads over hear are farly short, but having a T3 giving top end boost is no good for what i want as i would run out of road quick before the full benifits from the T3 come in,
ive beat many ERST off the line and up the road, even gave a cossie a run for its money once, but as ya say my T2 ran out of puff and he sailed past, as he would in a cos, but the point im making is that the T2 is a good turbo if ya using it for what you want

as for the housing cracking, yeah the internal on mine has got a crack but it is only small, but ive seen T3's with the same, its the cast iron, getting red hot and cooling down all the time, its gunna happen.

the T2 is a good turbo if its for the job you want
fair enough m8 i see you live on a island, when i went from a t2 to a t3 yeah there was a bit more lag but you soon get use to it and learn how to drive the car so the lag does'nt become an issue.. the advise i give to anyone with a fiesta if your t2 turbo on its way and eventually you want more power go for a t3.
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Originally Posted by turboboss
Originally Posted by jayRS
reving too much all the time on idle anit good, and from my experience the lag from a T3 compaired to the T2 is a lot, lets face it, it is what it is, its a small turbo that spins up fast and give you boost at low revs, thats what its designed for, the T3 starts giving boost about 500-800RPM later than the T2, not saying thats bad as it give good boost all the way and doesnt run out of puff as quick as the T2, but it depends what ya want, as i said, T2 is idel for me, roads over hear are farly short, but having a T3 giving top end boost is no good for what i want as i would run out of road quick before the full benifits from the T3 come in,
ive beat many ERST off the line and up the road, even gave a cossie a run for its money once, but as ya say my T2 ran out of puff and he sailed past, as he would in a cos, but the point im making is that the T2 is a good turbo if ya using it for what you want

as for the housing cracking, yeah the internal on mine has got a crack but it is only small, but ive seen T3's with the same, its the cast iron, getting red hot and cooling down all the time, its gunna happen.

the T2 is a good turbo if its for the job you want
fair enough m8 i see you live on a island, when i went from a t2 to a t3 yeah there was a bit more lag but you soon get use to it and learn how to drive the car so the lag does'nt become an issue.. the advise i give to anyone with a fiesta if your t2 turbo on its way and eventually you want more power go for a t3.
plus the T3 is cheaper

did think about the T3, i was gunna do a 2.0L zetect turbo engine, but when i sat down and really thought about it, i thought whats the point, i aint got anywhere to use it, and the nice long road we have got, apart from bit bumpey now, the pigs sit down it now with there hair dryers hanging out the window so cant even give it a good blip down there anymore.

prob more so now as they clocked a porsche doing 150mph the other week, so i decided to stick with the cvh and rebuild it, balance it etc, get a better reving lump but stick standrad if ya know what i mean, once done and blue printed etc it should make some good power, if not, maybe, just maybe a T3 will be considered
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Default 200 BHP FRST ENGINE

JAY RS.I HAVE A STAGE 2 T2 HYBRID-WITH 360 THRUST AND T25 TRIM COMPRESSOR WHEEL.MY ENGINE HAS ONLY DONE 12K SINCE THE CONVERSION.I WANT TO KEEP MY STANDARD CAM.I WILL CHANGE THE CHIP FOR 195 ALONG WITH BEIGE INJECTORS AND GET THE CAR SET UP PROPERLY.
ANY RECOMMENDATIONS-POWER ENGINEERING,MOTORSPORT DEVELOPMENTS,AHMED BAYJOO AT GROVE GARAGE???
ANYONE HAD ANY GOOD OR BAD EXPERIENCES WITH THESE TUNERS ON T2 OR T3 FIESTA TURBOS????PLEASE PM ME IF U DON'T WANT 2 SPECIFY ON THE FORUM.
I DON'T WANT THE CAR TO RUN TO MUCH BOOST 15 OR 16PSI WOULD BE NICE.DO U THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE WITH THE TURBO I NOW HAVE?
AS I HAVE THE ZVH DO U RECKON IT'LL REACH 190 BHP.BEARING IN MIND IT'S REACHED 152BHP AT THE WHEELS BACK IN 2002,I THINK THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 185BHP AT THE FLYWHEEL?
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yeah yta should be about to run that boost with that spec turbo, standard cams are good but ya get a bit more with a different one, as long as its suited to the mods ya have/want

ive had a couple of trips from the isle of wight to power engineering, first time they said my head gasket had gone and wouldnt stick it on the rollers, got it home done a compression test and it was fine, but still replaced it incase it had, but once the head was off you could see it wasnt gone and in fact it was fine, but by that time ya got to put a new one on, cost me over £100 for nothing, and thats without what it cost me with ferry, petrol and what power engineing charged me, however, i went down a second time as it was running crap, this time i was told the fuel pump was fucked, they had it on the rollers but it was way to lean to do to much, got it home, put a uprated pump in it and it went great, the old pump worked but was fucked, but i didnt go back to them, i had it set up at a place in portsmouth 9 wish i had know anout them first 2 times round)

once my engines been built and run in i want to take it to a good place to have it set up, the place in portsmouth was ok, but when he locked the wheels trying to slow it down and stalled the engine at what i reckon was 100mph i decided i wouldnt be going back

so any info on place's from others would be good for me also.
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TRY GROVE GARAGE,ROMFORD IN ESSEX.THEY DON'T HAVE A ROLLING ROAD BUT HAVE ALL THE AIR/FUEL RATIO MACHINERY.AHMED BAYJOO WORKS THERE ALONG WITH MARK.I HAVE SPOKEN 2 THEM BOTH VIA TELEPHONE AND THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL AND KNOWLEDGEABLE GUYS.I CAN'T SPEAK FROMEXPERIENCE BUT THEY R RS SPECIALISTS AND HAVE BEEN IN THE TUNING GAME A LONG TIME.
ALTERNATIVELY MOTORSPORT DEVELOPMENTS WHICH RUN THIS SITE MAY BE AN OPTION FOR U,THEY ARE SITUATED IN BLACKPOOL.AGAIN THEY DON'T HAVE A ROLLING ROAD BUT HAVE THE AIR/FUEL RATIO READERS.U DON'T GET A BHP READING THEN OBVIOUSLY BUT U GET REAL LIFE SET UP ON THE ROAD.WHICH MANY SAY IS BETTER.
I CAN'T ARGUE EITHER WAY REALLY.INTERPRO SET UP A SERIES 2 ESCORT FOR ME TO 150 BHP BACK IN 1997 DID A GOOD JOB.TURBOSYSTEMS SET MY SERIES 1 ESCORT TURBO UP IN 2002,SET UP ON OPEN ROAD BUT WAS OVERFUELLING.
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blackpools abit far away for me mate, im on the isle of wight,
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I know it's along way for you,just trying to make a few suggestions really.
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oh yeah i know that dude, still dont matter how far ya go to get it done right, within reason of course
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i took my frst to interpro in bristol a year ago they were good,if i were to have it done again though id prob go 2 jamsport as ive heard they are good and they are always featured in pf mag
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Fezzanut.Hi there I'm from South Wales to.Where abouts?
I took my series 2 escort to interpro going back some years now mind.I found they were good,but they r expensive.Dave Griffiths there really is the business.It's close for us to go there aswell.I'm thinking of taking mine to Motorsport developments,Power Engineering or P J Motorsport for a new chip and tune soon.I'm having a new hybrid fitted at the moment as the original turbo is pewking smoke out of the exhaust like puff the magic dragon.I used the car a handful of time only since xmas due to this.it's stripped down at the mo.waiting for the hybrid to go on.
What is the spec on ur car mate.
Cheers Lee.
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