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Old 24-01-2006 | 06:30 PM
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I'm going to place an other camshaft in the cylinder head of my FRST.
Which one would you recomand?
Old 24-01-2006 | 07:44 PM
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Kent CVH34

Newman cams are sposed to be excellent but I've not personally used them
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1st kent cvh35
2nd piper 285t2
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Tried cvh 34,35 and now on 36 and its the best by far try these www.racepowermotorsport.com it won't disappoint less lag and revs alot higher an allround excellent cam.
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thanks guys,
I want to the kent site, and the specs of the "kent cvh 36" => BHP Gain = 0
Is this correct?
Because the "kent cvh 35" says => BHP gain = 26

Or shouldn't I listen to these specs?

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Old 25-01-2006 | 04:14 PM
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I have heard that Piper's 285T2 is not at all well suited to the FRST
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i found the t2 cam to be almost identical to the 35,but you need to rev it more to get the power.

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Originally Posted by Oranoco
I have heard that Piper's 285T2 is not at all well suited to the FRST
Just fitted mine yesterday... i'll let yas know
Old 25-01-2006 | 08:21 PM
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would cam choice also be affected by the turbo choice say would u have a diffrent cam for a t2 as aposed to a t3 ??
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would cam choice also be affected by the turbo choice say would u have a diffrent cam for a t2 as aposed to a t3 ??
That would seem to make a certain ammount of sense. The management differences between the FRST and ERST I would expect to cause some issues as well.

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It's always a compromise.
If you go 1.6cvh low comp and 0.48 exhaust housing turbo then you want a low laggy cam like the CVH34.

If you go std 1.6cvh and 0.36 exhaust housing (like the std ERST T3) then you can go CVH35 and will not give you too much lag and middle and top-end power will be improved.

Dont forget to choose the right compressor Trim, IC, injectores, proper mapping, etc

I read a 285T2 VS CVH36 review. Can scan it so you guys could read it.
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ok ive just read this and now im confused...ive got a new cvh34 cam sitting to go into my head...am i better keeping my t2 or putting on my t3 (got both sitting also)
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Originally Posted by Sean_RS
Originally Posted by Oranoco
I have heard that Piper's 285T2 is not at all well suited to the FRST
Just fitted mine yesterday... i'll let yas know
I dont think much of mine so let me know how you get on

Ive got t3 with .48 rear housing, low compression and its far too laggy for my liking
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well im not in t3 league yet.. hybrid t2.

getting stu to set it up again on tue now new cams in, we'll see what it does at the rr.
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It's not all about rr power figures mate
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hmm, before i go spending my hard ernt cash it would be good to see how this pans out.

im thinking of the cvh35 as i want low down and mid range power mainly, thats why im sticking with the T2 turbo, got all the other crap on to bring it to the P1 set up, beiges etc
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
It's not all about rr power figures mate
i know yeah... would be nice to have a god graph

Would be nice if the cam lasts longer than a week aswel
Old 26-01-2006 | 08:14 PM
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Never had a problem with any of my cams. Had both Kent and Piper in my engines. Know of people that have had problems knackering cams in no time at all
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I was running a 34 with my T2 and worked well then switch to T3 and went for a 35 and it was really poor, now changed to 36 and it pulls awesome and works really well less lag and smoother through the range with this setup and a stage 3 head etc etc.
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ian howells oppinion on t2 cam-

"The 285T2 will never be right! Piper copied the CVH35 and altered the LCA by 8 degrees so not to be had under copyright laws - The ended up robbing all the energy that was available to spool up a turbo in the 3-4k region, but gained slightly on the top end HP.

Most people buy a T2 and think it's a fantastic cam because it's hardcore at the top end, but any CVH35 owner will know the diff immediately as the T2 feels gutless until it's seriously ragged. "

nuff said
Old 26-01-2006 | 10:32 PM
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i would recomend a kent cvh35 by far had the t2 didnt think alot of it.but good luck mate
Old 26-01-2006 | 10:52 PM
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Cams getting knackered in no time its because ppl dont lube them properly and dont even "run them in"!

I read an article 285T2 VS CVH36. I'll scan the article and post it here latter.
The results were something like this:
285T2 cam had more 2 or 3 bhp than the CVH36.
CVH36 cam had LOADS more torque from low rpm when 285T2 seems to be a NA engine at the same rpm.

The test was done without tuning the engine. Its a "straight out of the box" cam article.

Just by looking at the dyno graphs, can say that the CVH36 is way better on the road than the 285T2.
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what anout the 35
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Originally Posted by BUTRE
Cams getting knackered in no time its because ppl dont lube them properly and dont even "run them in"!
not true mate... a good friend of mine fitted a kent cvh35, used plenty of lube and was run it at the rigt revs for the correct amount of time... his was fooked in a week... ive heard of it happening to a few on here.
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Originally Posted by Sean_RS
well im not in t3 league yet.. hybrid t2.

getting stu to set it up again on tue now new cams in, we'll see what it does at the rr.
Ok cool let me know how you get on will be interested to find out

Still not sure what to do with mine Power Engineering have recommended i go back to standard on mine by i just dont know
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Originally Posted by Sean_RS
well im not in t3 league yet.. hybrid t2.

getting stu to set it up again on tue now new cams in, we'll see what it does at the rr.
Ok cool let me know how you get on will be interested to find out

Still not sure what to do with mine Power Engineering have recommended i go back to standard on mine by i just dont know
Why did they say that? have u got probs?

Think ill keep mine on a t2... i like the bottom en power, hopefully i get a nice read at the rr and ill be happy with the power and can just concentrate on the cosmetics.
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I think it was just the major lag it has caused and said i would loose alot of that if i go back to a standard cam

Im the same i really enjoyed the bottom end power and really miss it even tho its great fun when the power kicks in

Yeah will be interested to see you car at the RR day
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The standard cam is actually very good. I still have one in mine and made over 200bhp. A Kent CVH35 is on the cards as that's what I have in mine. Lou you are more than welcome to come out for a couple of laps at Bedford if you like to compare
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Originally Posted by h196jne
I was running a 34 with my T2 and worked well then switch to T3 and went for a 35 and it was really poor, now changed to 36 and it pulls awesome and works really well less lag and smoother through the range with this setup and a stage 3 head etc etc.
from this i'd be up for going t3 with a 36 cam
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Default T2 turbo and 34 cam

My setup is a pace double capacity intercooler, rebuild T2 turbo, rebuild enginge, 195 chip, -31 actuator and mongoose full exhaust line.

Would the cvh34 cam be the best in this case?
Or should I go for the cvh35 of 36 cam?
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i think a 35 or 36 with your spec,im pretty sure you need to run at least 14psi with a cvh35 to get the best out of it,and you cant really run that sort of boost on a 165 chip. so 195 chip is better suited to a 35/36,165chip better to use a cvh34 i would have thought.
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
The standard cam is actually very good. I still have one in mine and made over 200bhp. A Kent CVH35 is on the cards as that's what I have in mine. Lou you are more than welcome to come out for a couple of laps at Bedford if you like to compare
That would be cool thanks alot Steve
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Pmsl might be a good idea espec if im in the car
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Originally Posted by BUTRE
It's always a compromise.
If you go 1.6cvh low comp and 0.48 exhaust housing turbo then you want a low laggy cam like the CVH34.

If you go std 1.6cvh and 0.36 exhaust housing (like the std ERST T3) then you can go CVH35 and will not give you too much lag and middle and top-end power will be improved.

Dont forget to choose the right compressor Trim, IC, injectores, proper mapping, etc

I read a 285T2 VS CVH36 review. Can scan it so you guys could read it.
ive a low comp 1.6 engine with t3. i have the choise of 36 or 48 housing what trim spec would suit for torque and how will the ic affect the turbo,s characterestic
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.48 exhaust housing lags more (up to 3800rpm on 1.6 cvh) than the .36 (up to 3000rpm on 1.6 cvh) but .48 since is less exhaust restritive it will give you more bhp at high rpm.

This is just a starting point from where to start looking. Lag also depends of the cam and chip (off shelf or live maped one).
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