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so I have purchased a escort xr3i that wont run , apparently it did run 18 months ago. 1993 1.8 silver top xr3i
so new battery and drain all old fuel and replace with fresh fuel
I have fuel at the little valve on the fuel rail ( but dont know if the pressure is right ) fuel pressure gauge kit coming tomorrow
im 99% sure its a fuel issue . occasionally when you start to crank it will fire for a second then nothing
it did have a immobiliser on it but I have fully removed this and re joined the 2 cuts to the loom made
checked the fuel pump and I can hear it running
pulled the plugs and they spark
where do I go next please , any ideas would be great
thanks all
so new battery and drain all old fuel and replace with fresh fuel
I have fuel at the little valve on the fuel rail ( but dont know if the pressure is right ) fuel pressure gauge kit coming tomorrow
im 99% sure its a fuel issue . occasionally when you start to crank it will fire for a second then nothing
it did have a immobiliser on it but I have fully removed this and re joined the 2 cuts to the loom made
checked the fuel pump and I can hear it running
pulled the plugs and they spark
where do I go next please , any ideas would be great
thanks all
Is it trying to start at all? If you crank and then pull a plug is it wet?
Assume this was an aftermarket immob? There is a Ford immob fitted as standard too. Red light on the dash should go off with ignition and not flash/go solid when cranking.
Assume this was an aftermarket immob? There is a Ford immob fitted as standard too. Red light on the dash should go off with ignition and not flash/go solid when cranking.
The plot thickens. The red light by the clock is constant red all the time once ignition is on.
but. With a squirt of easy start it has fired up. It will run but very very lumpy. It will only rev up a little at a time. The air flow meter makes no difference is connected or not.
there is no chip in the key that I can see.
im more confused than before. There is obviously no diagnostic port on the car
but. With a squirt of easy start it has fired up. It will run but very very lumpy. It will only rev up a little at a time. The air flow meter makes no difference is connected or not.
there is no chip in the key that I can see.
im more confused than before. There is obviously no diagnostic port on the car
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so is the shitty alarm only cutting out the fuel pump ? I assumed it did more than that . the pump runs constantly once the ignition is turned on , I would expect it to only run for a few seconds ?
how hard is it to get rid of the alarm thingy , there is a chance that the fuel pump is getting a 12v from somewhere else ?
how hard is it to get rid of the alarm thingy , there is a chance that the fuel pump is getting a 12v from somewhere else ?
just been out to double check , there is no transponder ring or any wiring around the ignition barrel
and 100% no chip in the key
is there a chance this was pre pats ?
and 100% no chip in the key
is there a chance this was pre pats ?
Airflow meter won't stop it starting. Zetecs will start and run with it unplugged.
Did you change the fuel filter when you replaced the fuel?
Pulled the injectors and given them a clean? Poor spray pattern could be a cause.
Checked the cam timing (tho I'd expect pops/bangs/or horrible engine noise if it was that out)?
Compression test? Its an unknown engine, could easily be f*cked
Did you change the fuel filter when you replaced the fuel?
Pulled the injectors and given them a clean? Poor spray pattern could be a cause.
Checked the cam timing (tho I'd expect pops/bangs/or horrible engine noise if it was that out)?
Compression test? Its an unknown engine, could easily be f*cked
Compression was done. All good. Yes new fuel filter.
if I get it started on a whiff of easy start. It will run. But very badly on its own. It will
also re start whilst its warm. But once cold then nothing.
if I get it started on a whiff of easy start. It will run. But very badly on its own. It will
also re start whilst its warm. But once cold then nothing.
ok my clever people ......
so with the ignition on and the pump running at 3 bar , if I put 12v to the injector it gives a beautiful spray of fuel
but cranking there is no fuel . any ideas please
there is deff some thing there as my meter is bouncing up , but dont think there is enough ?
thanks
so with the ignition on and the pump running at 3 bar , if I put 12v to the injector it gives a beautiful spray of fuel
but cranking there is no fuel . any ideas please
there is deff some thing there as my meter is bouncing up , but dont think there is enough ?
thanks
should I be looking at camshaft or crankshaft position sensors ?
I am deff getting a spark , so that should indicate at least 1 of these is working ?
I am deff getting a spark , so that should indicate at least 1 of these is working ?
Last edited by Dodgydiver; Jan 4, 2023 at 04:48 PM.
so I have borrowed a set of noid lights , they deff light up as the engine spins , no way to know if they should be really bright or not but they do light up
yet if I directly add 12v the injector sprays
are they gummed up and the signal is not long enough for them to fire
im so confused here ... im used to cars that have a OBD plug and I can see what's going on
please please please help me before I just start buying more new bits I dont need
yet if I directly add 12v the injector sprays
are they gummed up and the signal is not long enough for them to fire
im so confused here ... im used to cars that have a OBD plug and I can see what's going on
please please please help me before I just start buying more new bits I dont need
Last edited by Dodgydiver; Jan 4, 2023 at 05:26 PM.
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