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Old 06-11-2008, 09:09 PM
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Hey

ive been into detailing/valeting for a while now and have been getting realy good results like my girl freinds polo here..





BUT i just dont get ver good results with my car always looks flat and dull yet i can get VW/BMW/ and my rangerover polished like a mirror

any suggestions on what to try??

i currently use meguires Teck wax + 3 stage with paint cleaner with a silverline buffer etc

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you can practise on my silver mondeo if you like !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 09-11-2008, 09:35 AM
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moondust is a hard colour to get a deepshine on mate.i used to have a moondust saff and although it always looked really clean its didnt give the reflections or depth of paint other silvers do. its just not got as much shine in it tbh.
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you can practise on my silver mondeo if you like !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im shure you dont need any help from me
Old 09-11-2008, 04:45 PM
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What are you using when machine polishing?

On your car I'd recommend Menzerna PO106 Final Finish on a Meguiars polishing pad (then maybe the same polish again on a finishing pad depending on how well you've worked it and refined the finish).

Failing that step up to Menzerna PO85 RD 3.02 Intensive polish if the above doesn't work followed by Menzerna PO85 Final Finish to refine.

All depends on what you're trying to do - just get a deeper more reflective gloss on the paint or a full correction and swirl removal. If it's the former then go with the first set up I suggested, and for a full correction go with the Intensive polish > Final finish. As with all machine polishing, always start with the least abrasive pad/polish combo you've got and work up, which I'm sure you already know.

You can get a Menzerna 250ml starter kit from a lot of detailing traders and it contains 4 bottles (the 3 I've mentioned above plus a heavier cutting compound called Power Gloss, but you won't need that).

As for a good wax or sealant that works well on silver, try either Collinite 476s, the Jeffs workstat Acrylic Jett, or one of the Dodo range like Diamond White or Light fantastic depending on whether you want a hard or soft wax. Another new paste sealant that's getting great reviews at the moment is Finish Kare's 1000p, although I've yet to try it myself, I have it on good authority that it looks great on silver and is extremely durable (even a match for the Collinite in this respect). Zaino is another route to go down that always produces great results on light metallics.

Silver is a difficult colour to get a good depth of shine and reflections to, but with the right knowhow and products it's achievable.

Hope some of that's helped, mate

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Originally Posted by Pit Viper
What are you using when machine polishing?

On your car I'd recommend Menzerna PO106 Final Finish on a Meguiars polishing pad (then maybe the same polish again on a finishing pad depending on how well you've worked it and refined the finish).

Failing that step up to Menzerna PO85 RD 3.02 Intensive polish if the above doesn't work followed by Menzerna PO85 Final Finish to refine.

All depends on what you're trying to do - just get a deeper more reflective gloss on the paint or a full correction and swirl removal. If it's the former then go with the first set up I suggested, and for a full correction go with the Intensive polish > Final finish. As with all machine polishing, always start with the least abrasive pad/polish combo you've got and work up, which I'm sure you already know.

You can get a Menzerna 250ml starter kit from a lot of detailing traders and it contains 4 bottles (the 3 I've mentioned above plus a heavier cutting compound called Power Gloss, but you won't need that).

As for a good wax or sealant that works well on silver, try either Collinite 476s, the Jeffs workstat Acrylic Jett, or one of the Dodo range like Diamond White or Light fantastic depending on whether you want a hard or soft wax. Another new paste sealant that's getting great reviews at the moment is Finish Kare's 1000p, although I've yet to try it myself, I have it on good authority that it looks great on silver and is extremely durable (even a match for the Collinite in this respect). Zaino is another route to go down that always produces great results on light metallics.

Silver is a difficult colour to get a good depth of shine and reflections to, but with the right knowhow and products it's achievable.

Hope some of that's helped, mate
thats the kind of info i looking for no problems with swirls or anything as i take full car when washing and theres not a mark on it its more the wax and sealents im after ti give a more glossy look like you say,

thanx again
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No problem, mate - glad it was of some help

(I'm over here from Detailing World, so should be able to chip in with advice in this section of the site from now on)
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I have a moondust mondeo st and can get serious depth in my shine with just clay bar and then wax.
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Originally Posted by joe s
I have a moondust mondeo st and can get serious depth in my shine with just clay bar and then wax.
As Pit Viper has said Its all down to the polishing stages ! Claying removes the bonded contaminates like tar .tree sap. and so on .Silver is not so easy to get the "WET" look bit it can be done ! This pic is of My old M3 Done with the Menzerna products described by Viper in the above post Finished with Victoria Concours wax..

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i couldnt belive the difference a good wax makes after using a clay bar.
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It's very true that ^^^ polishes, glazes, waxes, QD sprays all wipe on and buff off so much easier after a good claying session and all the above surface bonded on contaminants are gone. Not the nicest of jobs in detailing a car, but the long term results are definitely worth it.
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