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Old 23-01-2016, 10:59 AM
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My 1988 2wd Sierra cossie is showing 100 on two cylinders and 120 on the other two should be 140 + so not good ...I inderstand.

Pistons rings gone or head gasket ? Any idea as car has no power .

Any idea how much it would cost to repair it in Kent ?

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Is it losing coolant?

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Old 23-01-2016, 01:47 PM
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Is it losing coolant?

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Yes sir,
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Is it losing coolant?

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Yes it is Martin.

Gonna ask the Mechanic to have a check.

Hope , it's not gonna be too expensive .
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Then it's likely the HG (especially if original).

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Pull plugs out look down bores if head gasket has breached into cylinders you will have very clean piston crowns.
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Then it's likely the HG (especially if original).

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I believe it's an aftermarket and hope that it's just the head gasket .
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Originally Posted by costina
Pull plugs out look down bores if head gasket has breached into cylinders you will have very clean piston crowns.
Would it effect the piston rings ?
Hope it would not be an expensive fix
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Originally Posted by SGP
Would it effect the piston rings ?
Hope it would not be an expensive fix
No it will be approx £150 for gaskets and bolts.
Has it overheated.? Reason i asked is most garages will just skim the head for their own peace of mind when in fact most do not need doing. Hence why most cossies are running more compression. Only have the head skimmed if its warpped out of spec.
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Would have an answer on Monday or Tuesday to be sure .

Crossing fingers
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Originally Posted by costina
No it will be approx £150 for gaskets and bolts.
Has it overheated.? Reason i asked is most garages will just skim the head for their own peace of mind when in fact most do not need doing. Hence why most cossies are running more compression. Only have the head skimmed if its warpped out of spec.
It was overheated but car was switched off in time.

After cooling down, it could start easily and could be driven but no power.
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Originally Posted by SGP
It was overheated but car was switched off in time.

After cooling down, it could start easily and could be driven but no power.
Ok make sure it has a group A headgasket fitted and standard correct head bolts. Dont be fobbed off with a ARP stud and nut kit. And while its apart a new belt will be a safe bet.
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And the most inportant thing is timing it up correctly as if you dont know cossie's you can get it wrong.




This is how it should be done. Notice the crank pulley is on the lug NOT the V groove as a pinto would be. Result would be piston to valve contact.

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Originally Posted by costina
Ok make sure it has a group A headgasket fitted and standard correct head bolts. Dont be fobbed off with a ARP stud and nut kit. And while its apart a new belt will be a safe bet.
Ok, would tell my Mechanic to get it right.

Today he is gonna open the head . Am pretty worried as I sinked it quite a bit allready . Brought the car from Singapore to UK . Has tons of parts and is running on a M800 Motec with 8 injectors .
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Originally Posted by costina
And the most inportant thing is timing it up correctly as if you dont know cossie's you can get it wrong.




This is how it should be done. Notice the crank pulley is on the lug NOT the V groove as a pinto would be. Result would be piston to valve contact.

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Thanks for the diaphragm mate .

Appreciate all the help coming.

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Let us know whats happening. It is possible with all that work done on it it may have a triple layer gasket.

Again if its 2wd and still on the 205 block i would advise if it has arp studs to remove and fit std head bolts. CHECK all threads in block for cracks.
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Originally Posted by costina
Let us know whats happening. It is possible with all that work done on it it may have a triple layer gasket.

Again if its 2wd and still on the 205 block i would advise if it has arp studs to remove and fit std head bolts. CHECK all threads in block for cracks.





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Originally Posted by costina
Let us know whats happening. It is possible with all that work done on it it may have a triple layer gasket.

Again if its 2wd and still on the 205 block i would advise if it has arp studs to remove and fit std head bolts. CHECK all threads in block for cracks.
I am not sure how to see the block and whether it's a 205 block .

Waiting for the Mechanic to open the engine .
Triple layer gasket ? Wow .. Why would anyone do that ? Isn't a thicker head gasket better ?

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205 is stamped on the block which is a 2wd block unless it has small core plugs then its a 205 RS500 block.
200 blocks are stronger due to 4x4 transmission.
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Originally Posted by costina
205 is stamped on the block which is a 2wd block unless it has small core plugs then its a 205 RS500 block.
200 blocks are stronger due to 4x4 transmission.
Nice, thanks for sharing the information

Car would only be open on Friday . I am in singapore and the car is in Kent (UK) .
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By looking at that it's not going to have the original HG.

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Originally Posted by martysmartie
By looking at that it's not going to have the original HG.

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It's probably using the Group A head gaskets .
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
By looking at that it's not going to have the original HG.

Martin
I would agree Martin would interesting to find out. I used one of the early cometic gaskets which failed due to the stud and nut kit never again.

Looks like a 4x4 head so hopefully a 200 block too.

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Originally Posted by costina
I would agree Martin would interesting to find out. I used one of the early cometic gaskets which failed due to the stud and nut kit never again.

Looks like a 4x4 head so hopefully a 200 block too.
When it was running well, it was around 450bhp .
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