Karlos G

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Ok check this out........i fitted a new clutch on thursday everything went smoothly quite a simple job really, but for some reason I no longer have a 5th gear!!
The stick goes in and sits as if in 5th but when you bring the clutch up nothing happens you can just rev the engine but go no where!
So I disconected the selector rod and put it in 5th actualy using the rod that sticks out of the gearbox and still nothing!

I'm wandering if when I had the gearbox out something has moved inside preventing 5th from engaging?
Ther are no crunching sounds and all other gears work perfectly.

Any ideas?

Aaroncast

i did (or may not have) read somewhere before you remove clutch leave in 5 th gear! .

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

hmmm........

Karlos G

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........ I think that is only if you remove the drive shafts, which i didnt!
So shouldnt matter!

SafeChav

Shouldn't make a difference to be honest, thats usually to help with the setting up of the linkage.

Just purely bad luck i guess, but on the plus side, you can inspect 5th gear with the box on the car

scotty86d

i couldn't get third gear when i adjusted mine.i cocked up and didnt get it right. its pot lukc to some extent and most likely that

gup

iTrader: (1)

does sound like the gear linkage is out slightly does it crunch and pull away in all the other gears even in reverse

SafeChav

He said hes selected the gear manually from underneath and still no drive?

gup

iTrader: (1)

my bad

SafeChav

JesseT

You didn't drain gearbox oil by removing a small screw, did you?

SafeChav

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh........................

Good thinking JesseT

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

errr......... I started to then thought it was getting a bit long for a drain plug and screwed it back in!
WHy? What is it for??

I'm guessing badness has happened!

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

Yeah regards the gear linkage posts, i engaged 5th without having it connected to ensure it wasnt just me not getting it right so i'm certain its not that cos there was still no drive, i can put it in and out of 5th with out using the clutch either connected to the gear linkage or not!! and yup all other gears work perfectly!

Whats this screw all about then?
and how can i inspect 5th with the box still on the car?

Cheers!

SafeChav

If my memory serves me correctly that is the locking pin for the 5th gear selector fork!

Not a big drama, its fixable!

get yer haynes manual out

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

So as 5th gear is accessable without taking the box off, i might be able to relocate it!! Is there a cover or something i need to remove to get at it then?

Like you say Haines manual time!

SafeChav

You can access 5th gear just by removing the end case, which is lucky for you, to access 4/3/2/1 you have to split the casing open!

Haynes manual indeed!

JesseT

It's not the 5th gearlocking pin, but an axle for a lever. I'll try to find a picture of it.

Anyhow, the remedy is to remove the gearbox mounts.
Lower the gearbox and engine (the engine mount stays put) about 10cm.
Open the end case of the gearbox.
Put parts to their correct places.
Refit everything.


Edit:
Ok, have a look at here:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/~w444776/JT_k...ox/rebuild.zip

picture 8243 specially.

edit2:

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

5th gear has landed!!

Just took the cover off the side of the gearbox and low and behold the fork was sitting there on the bottom, where I had unscrewed it!
So removed screw, lighned it up and screwed back in!

Didnt even have to move engine or gearbox, managed to do it all on the car!

Thanks everyone for your help!!!

Karlos.

JesseT

Always glad to help people who want to DIY.

SafeChav

Well done, that must of been well fiddly to do without dropping enough but still jobs a good un






(Don't be a muppet next time )