Escort Zetec turbo build 11 sec 1/4

[fordie2581]

BUILDING A ROAD LEGAL TRACK CAR It all started off catching the 1/4 mile bug going to a few pod days in my s2 turbo. Turning out to be a stripped out second car which spends most of its life in my garage in bits but i have managed to have her round Silverstone and get in plenty of 1/4 mile days with my best time being 13.6 with 195bhp and 224lbs/ft. spec 1.6 standard bottom end standard head standard turbo Kent 36 cam kit and pully Apexi boost controller Omex rev limiter Collins ecu Mitsubishi Evo 4 intercooler CTS stage 2 plus box AP 4 paddle clutch light and balanced fly wheel Gaz coilovers Scorpion full system 3" Car weight = 820kgs I was thinking about breaking it and laying off the car scene for a bit but couldn't bring myself round to do it so now i'm going full out for a Zetec Turbo 1/4 mile bute hoping to get her into the 11's but we'll see how that goes! Zetec Turbo parts so far: Zetec silvertop lump JE Pistons Eagle rods ARP bolts. head, main, flywheel, con rods Alloy bottom pulley Nissan 480cc injectors side feed RS 1800 inlet Exhaust manifold Nos omex 710 Tial 44mm wastegate new JE pistons, i'm gonna be running a 9 comp on my Zetec build. I know a lot of people run a low comp and more boost but i'm going for a 14-18 psi and 100 shot of NOS to help me out. These pistons are supposed to be rated 900bhp and 300 shot of NOS - we'll see how that holds out. CTS Stage 2 plus box with Quaife ATB, i ended up buying this box due to my nature of driving - i got through 2 standard RS Turbo butes. So i thought instead of wasting my money keep buying boxes, oil and the hassel of keep swapping them so i went out and bought this one new from Bernie himself as i heard a lot of good things about the boxes and i must admit i've had no problems with it apart from it weeping oil out of the cover plate and it did bring my times down on the 1/4. Intercooler - Fun and games i had here, started off with buying a Pace double capacity one, you can just see it in the pic at the top of me going down Santa Pod. Thinking these were supposed to be good, it wasn't until i got myself an ACT gauge that i noticed that temperatures were indeed going into the 70's which is very bad. I don't know if anyone else has ever had this problem but i found it sat too close to the radiator. So i ended up coming across a standard Mitsubishi Evo 4 intercooler, it was a bit of a mission to fit but was a decent size, not going to big and has plenty of room away from the radiator and the temperature has not yet gone over 34 and that was when it was on a rolling road although I know they use big fans to keep the temperature down. I'm really happy with it. We'll just have to see if it's any good for the zetec! Inlet - I'm gonna be using the cast zetec inlet off of the 1.6 and 1.8 - i don't know if there is a difference between the two but i have bought the 1.6 and can't see there being a difference. I'll be using side feed injectors, i've seen they're making higher flow injectors for these now but you can also use Nissan ones, not too sure which ones i'll be using yet but think i'll be going for 550cc ones of some sort. update Due to help from luke89 i found out that there is a lot of difference between the inlet manifolds so now i'll be scrapping my 1.6 and going for the RS1800. sump I've got the zetec 1.6 sump so i can run the exhaust in the same place as a cvh engine would but what i'm wondering is there any difference between the 1.6 and 1.8 sumps i.e. capacity

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[Red16]

11s 1/4 mile in a fwd Escort is a tad optomistic imo

good luck in trying tho, be nice to see your project as it progresses, keep the pics and updates coming

[MD Cos]

nobody has managed 11s in a fwd ford in this country as far as i know... but a work mate of mine has in a vauxhall, so its seemingly possible

[rst-g]

get more pics off the motor!!!!

[jonnyrsturbo]

looks sweet as that 1 mate

[luke89]

just some info for you on the inlet that could save u some bother ! ,
all the zetec inlets are diffrent
1.6 90ps
1.8 105-150ps
1.8 130ps + rs1800

the rs1800 one has the biggest ports and is also slightly diffrent in shape,
also the rs1800 tb is the same size as a 2.0ltr zetec one ,
i have got a rs1800 one for my zt and one on my 2.0ltr zetec at and theres a lot of diffrent from when it had the 1.6 one on !



not the best pic as its old but you can see the port size diffrents !
hope thats some help

[McGoo 69]

looking good mate, gonna be sweet

as already mentiong there is a difference between the inlets, go for the rs1800 one

[fordie2581]

thanks for your help and putting me right on the inlet front, first change to my project.
Cheers dude

[gareth231]

good project dude - wont be as fast as mine

[luke89]

for sump capasity theres no diffrance, just the 1.6 si one has a bolt hole lol

[Brian]

Nice project mate

Keep us up dated


Brian

[Charlie Chalk]

11's, on what suspension?

Tims got over 300+bhp and can't get into 11's, and his suspession set up is pretty good.

Good luck anyway, Will watch this

[NEWTON]

looking good

[fordie2581]

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk

11's, on what suspension?

Tims got over 300+bhp and can't get into 11's, and his suspession set up is pretty good.

Good luck anyway, Will watch this

I'm running Gaz coilovers all round on about 290lb springs. She's also stripped out and weights only 820kgs

[turbotoaster]

ever wonder why no ford can get into the 11s when renault 5s can do it with 260bhp, its call tires, dont buy 888 and think they are amazing because they are track tires not drag tires, get some hoosier or M&T tyres and ur laughing, i guarantee tim could run a high 11 easy with proper tyres

[fordie2581]

[fordie2581]

Started on the loom today and finished cutting out what i didn't
need. To be honest it was a lot easier then i thought. Kept
lights,fan,alternator,wiper things like that - and they still work.

[pa_sjo]

What differential do you intend to run? 11's is quite the target!!

[fordie2581]

Originally Posted by pa_sjo

What differential do you intend to run? 11's is quite the target!!

quaife ATB . i no it will be hard.

[pa_sjo]

I think you'd probably want something a bit more specific for drag racing!

[COLEYST200]

Good work mate keep going you will get there

[luke89]

what else are u goin to help with traction ? drag bars on the rear to lock it out at full rase ? wide front tyers , skinny rears ? un sprong weight is something to think about to ! some sort of drop limmiter on the front to hold it down and stop it from liftin ?

[Chip]

Originally Posted by turbotoaster

ever wonder why no ford can get into the 11s when renault 5s can do it with 260bhp, its call tires, dont buy 888 and think they are amazing because they are track tires not drag tires, get some hoosier or M&T tyres and ur laughing, i guarantee tim could run a high 11 easy with proper tyres

Doing it on slicks just isnt impressive at all, 11s is a fast road car, its a very slow drag car though.

Quite a few vauxhall lads in the 11s in fully road legal trim running 888 and similar tyres.

[XRT_si]

Originally Posted by turbotoaster

ever wonder why no ford can get into the 11s when renault 5s can do it with 260bhp, its call tires, dont buy 888 and think they are amazing because they are track tires not drag tires, get some hoosier or M&T tyres and ur laughing, i guarantee tim could run a high 11 easy with proper tyres

Tim is on stret legal drag radials i.e. The BEST street legal tyres you can possibly get
There are Renault 5s running 11s with street legal tyres too, anything else is cheating imo.

It will be quite a mission to run an 11, but good luck to you. By the way, a Quaife ATB is NOT the best diff to run for drag racing. Far from it in fact.

[fordie2581]

[fordie2581]

[gareth231]

sent you a pm dude

[Tim]

Best of luck with the build but i think you need a re think on your times , hope u get close.
tim

[Fiesta_ie]

welded diff maybe better and cheep ;P

[RSturboJET]

What is the part no. on the RS1800/130p.s. inlet manifold? I heard all 1.8 inlets are the same except the plastic mondeo/escort/focus ones.

[pa_sjo]

They're visibly different (even though a lot of morons will argue that ), however I don't have the part number to hand i'm afraid. Post a pic and I can tell you which one it is.

[luke89]

my rs inlet is away being polished , but all efi inlets with HO on the back casted to the drivers side of the inlet , so if your lookin at from the back its on your right is a rs1800 1

[Maximum Hustler]

Nice project

[fordie2581]

Engine is built now, using Focus RS head gasket, 1.8 Escort Zetec water pump, 1.6 Zetec sump, 2.0 Zetec cams and all performance parts i've mentioned before. Compression ratio worked out to be 8.8.1 lower than the 9.0.1 i was going for. Not sure what the dynamic ratio will be yet.

[rsturbo-2008]

hello mate told u i would look at some point u need more pics of your engine and bits so i can rob all of your ideas talk to u in a bit

[fordie2581]

Engine mount sorted, don't look the prettiest but fits spot on

Exhaust manifold arrived, got from the US. No doubt you have seen and heard about these. I have heard a mixture of views on these, good and bad. The only way to find out is to test it

[Roosie]

really impressed with this thread well done

[XRT_si]

Manifold looks good mate.

[Dan F]

Cool project fella,hope you do manage to get into the 11's,if not then have fun trying

[Chip]

Coming along nicely, although I still doing think you will break below the 12s on normal road tyres personally, lol