Mondi-DZK

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Allright
Today i was on the road to the yearly XR/RS meet. But sadly i never got there. When i left this morning i checked the car and everything was fine.

But after 2 hours driving, the heat temperature was going overheating in the red, so I slowed down and just as I stopped there was a hole lot of white steam coming from under the hood. It threw al his coolant out threw a crack in a hose.

So quickly opened it and it seems all of the steam was coming from a coolant hose with a big crack in it. I don't think there's anything wrong with the head gasket or engine but not sure. I let it cool down a bit and only started it (no driving) and it makes no strange noises or more white steam, it runs smooth so let's hope it's only that tiny little coolant hose.

So end of the day for me and 400 euros less just to get the car home. real tears...

There where a couple of other RS drivers that stopped asking to help, wanna say thank you for stopping/asking.

I'll get the car to the shop and keep you guys updatet in the next couple of weeks.

Don't know how to add a picture posting true my phone.

Glenn_

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Nightmare matey. Hopefully you can sort it. Which pipe is at fault.

It could of happened to any other old car matey.

Mondi-DZK

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Ok I found how to do it. So this is how the guy wanted to tow me. I told him it's a rwd car but as long it's in free gear...al was fine he said. I found it a bit careless.
So once again hope all is fine in this area to.

There was also a guy pulled over and came asking me ; is it a real one, it looks real nice. I told the guy, offcourse it's a real one. It's with the hood open and it don't drive anymore. Yep it's a real cosworth.

Mondi-DZK

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Glenn
It's a very little piece of hose just at the back of the engine block. On the shutterboard/heat shield. Maybe over there it's on the other side of the engine?

Glenn_

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Does it go to the heater matrix?

smiley

Ah bad luck thier mate

Mondi-DZK

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Yes Glenn that's the one. A litte hose with a curve in it. Haven't looked @ roose motorsport To get one From them.

YBJ

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Too bad you missed the XRRS meeting for this. I spotted only 3 other original sapphire cossies overthere and none of them were rwd..

visa_broke

as above too bad you missed the meeting

and yes genuine cosworth - you can tell by the fact the bonnets up and its being worked on

hope its a quick and easy fix

tony66

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if all the hoses are the same age it would be prudent to replace all the coolant hoses as the others are all just as likely to fail due to age

loggie

same happened on my 2000e - split in one of the hoses and lost all its coolant - luckily like you i stopped and got it sorted and everything is still 100%, so fingers crossed yours will be the same

Mondi-DZK

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@YBJ

Yeah Just bad luck hope To make it next year. I changed most of the other hoses. But forgot that little
fucker. @Loggie this happend when driving on the highway.

I stopped as quick as i could so let's hope for the best.
Thing is can't do anything on the car being on holiday, life's a bitch somethimes

@YBJ plan is to have the car ready for EFE Venray. (If all is not to bad)

Mondi-DZK

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Quick question
can't find the heater matrix hose seperatly on roose motorsport. But If i order the ancillary hoses set, that includes also the little heater matrix hose. Right?

(So it looks like)

Cos500

Towing is fine no worries there, you couldn't tow a 4x4 like that mind but 2wd no issues

Mondi-DZK

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Thank's for letting me know mate, when i'm back home and on the car i Let you guys know what's about.

Mondi-DZK

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Turn's out it's not a quick fix. The head gasket is gone to. When the head is of, gonna see further of the engine needs work to. Let's hope not.

Otherwise maybe i better start a rebuild topic

Sierrasideways

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Ah crap news mate. Big plans ahead so?!

Philip.

Mondi-DZK

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If the engine is not to bad then just rebuild it to standard. Depands on how bad it is, doing some upgrades.

So the shopping list just got bigger...

Twellsie

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mine did EXACTLY this coming back from the Isle of Wight RSOC one year, hope you get it all sorted ok

Mondi-DZK

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What was wrong on your car mate? The head was still ok?

Mine is eating dust, looking like a piece of shit in the garage , gonna see tomorrow how far they are on the car.

Gonna check the engine and rebuild/fresh up now i have to anyway.

Hope to update this progress tomorrow.

Twellsie

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no it warped the head, ended up having to get it skimmed and replaced the exhaust valves iirc

Mondi-DZK

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They just phoned me, telling the car is ready

Don't now all the new parts at the time, but few new hoses, heat gasket and all that comes with it, head is skimmed to offcourse.

Gonna pick it up and see whatever else they had to replace.

Already wondering what this gonna cost me this time.

I just love that car...

Mondi-DZK

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Just noticed the first post, it only took them a month.
But it's allright, no pressure.

Mondi-DZK

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Allright then, new heat gasket kit, some hoses, head skimmed and a new temperature sensor as i melted the old one. The header tank is flushed but needs another flush, still not clean enough for me.

Did a few test drives today so couple of pictures, back on the road ;







Runs good but noticed a few bolts coming loose again, some of the cam cover and the engine lifting eye bolt needs a new one i think. But that's no big job

I do think the car makes some higher temps when driving then before... But maybe it's just me being a bit Cosworth paranoid at the moment
Anyway, here a couple of pictures showing the meter/norm.



And one while driving, not easy




Gonna take it easy for now with the car.
So makes your cosworth the same temp and it this the normal temp or in the safe limit being normal temperatures?

fuzzy

will the fact these cars aren't used much contribute to the problems that arise with bits seizing, cracking etc because theyre not used often?

Sierrasideways

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Mine never runs that high and to be honest I don't think I would drive it like that! For peace of mind only as mechanically it may be perfectly safe i.e. New sensor may just read higher than the previous sensor.

Did you see this thread recently....?....I would say change the ECT sensor immediately and see what happens with the temp gauge.

https://passionford.com/forum/ford-s...ding-high.html

There is a cracking shine off of your car, it looks great

Philip.

ajamesc

I've had my cosworth for over 10 years and the temp gauge always sat at the half mark. It never got hot never gave an issue what so ever

Mondi-DZK

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So i can ask for another sensor and see what it gives. But if i get it right, this setting is in the normal limits?

Can't remember how high it came before overheating, i never cared before this

Sierrasideways, i gave the car a good clean and a quick polish when i got it back. It was a mesh...

Cos500

Needle should sit in the middle between the O and the R, had a few cossies over the years, only time it sat there was on a hot day in traffic

Mondi-DZK

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Today it was very hot outside, so i took the sierra out to do all the family things all day. And took it out for some extra trip.

Result is, after using it all day giving it no time to take it easy...i can't get it hotter than hitting the O. So i'm not worried but will try another sensor and see what it gives.

Thanks all for the advice/help.

RST83

Mine never goes higher than the Top of the M.

Twellsie

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mine was running a little hotter after blowing the head gasket, I changed the thermostat which solved the problem

Mondi-DZK

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Thanks for this other tip mate. Gonna change the temp sensor and the thermostat and see what it do's.

When i have it all changed and do some drives, let you guys know.

JasonPD

Mine always sits a little bit lower than halfway. I've put this down to just the way it is as makes no difference hot/cold day or driving hard and never goes up high which I suppose is the main thing.

Rod-Tarry

Just having a bit of a chuckle. 'My cars running hot' , 'Is it over 95 Sir' , 'Actually its on M mate' , 'What Temperature is that then' , ' Well its lower than N '.
Why not fit a gauge so you can talk Temperature which is what you are trying to control. This is a 25 year old car you need to be in control of certain things & Temperature is one of them. Far cheaper than a new Head Gasket to fit a decent Gauge.

Mondi-DZK

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True

Just asking this way, to know this was in the 'Norm' of still ok. But as you say, you can't see/don't know exactly.

You have a point Rod.

Guinnless

Made me smile too.

Absolutely correct though, my Racetech gauge is sensitive enough to `see` the thermostat in operation.

YBJ

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Hi,

It seems the later sensors supplied by Ford reading higher than the original ones.

I posted a good one on here:

https://passionford.com/forum/6667166-post23.html

Mondi-DZK

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Thanks Wim

It's all good. Engine is not running hotter than it should.

Later type of sensor is showing a bit higher indeed, but to know how hot or cold...checking by a simple good old temp. gauge.

So all good and hopefully on the road for a while without errors.